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motherface
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 10:07 Post subject: China makes takeover bid for US Oil Company (Unocal)
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The next war will be interesting!
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/23/business/worldbusiness/23unocal.html
| Quote: | June 23, 2005
Chinese Oil Giant in Takeover Bid for U.S. Corporation
By DAVID BARBOZA
and ANDREW ROSS SORKIN
SHANGHAI, Thursday, June 23 - One of China's largest state-controlled oil companies made a $18.5 billion unsolicited bid Thursday for Unocal, signaling the first big takeover battle by a Chinese company for an American corporation.
The bold bid, by the China National Offshore Oil Corporation ( CNOOC), may be a watershed in Chinese corporate behavior, and it demonstrates the increasing influence on Asia of Wall Street's bare-knuckled takeover tactics.
The offer is also the latest symbol of China's growing economic power and of the soaring ambitions of its corporate giants, particularly when it comes to the energy resources it needs desperately to continue feeding its rapid growth.
CNOOC's bid, which comes two months after Unocal agreed to be sold to Chevron, the American energy giant, for $16.4 billion, is expected to incite a potentially costly bidding war over the California-based Unocal, a large independent oil company. CNOOC said its offer represents a premium of about $1.5 billion over the value of Unocal's deal with Chevron after a $500 million breakup fee.
Moreover, the effort is likely to provoke a fierce debate in Washington about the nation's trade policies with China and the role of the two governments in the growing trend of deal making between companies in the countries.
This week, a consortium of investors led by the Haier Group, one of China's biggest companies, moved to acquire the Maytag Corporation, the American appliance maker, for about $1.3 billion, surpassing a bid from a group of American investors.
Last month, Lenovo, China's largest computer maker, completed its $1.75 billion deal for I.B.M.'s personal computer business, creating the world's third-largest computer maker after Dell and Hewlett-Packard.
After years of attracting billions in foreign investment and virtually turning itself into the world's largest factory floor, China appears to be nurturing the growth of its own corporate giants into beacons of capitalism. China wants to be a player on the world stage, and it is eager to have its own energy resources, its own multinational corporations and its own dazzling corporate names.
And some of China's biggest companies are now on the hunt, trying to snap up global treasures.
"If there's an asset up for sale anywhere in the world, people are looking to China, particularly if there's a manufacturing element involved," said Colin Banfield, who runs the mergers and acquisitions practice at Credit Suisse First Boston in Asia. "And if these two deals go through this year, no one is going to doubt the credibility of the Chinese corporates when it comes to M & A."
The deal making and bidding wars are all the more remarkable because they involve Chinese companies taking on American multinationals in a series of transactions certain to be a boon for Western lawyers and investment bankers, many of whom have been betting hundreds of millions of dollars on China's rise.
Indeed, CNOOC is being advised by an army of bankers from Goldman Sachs, J. P. Morgan Chase and N M Rothschild & Sons of Britain.
In a response, Unocal said in a statement that its board would evaluate the offer, but that its recommendation of the deal with Chevron "remains in effect."
CNOOC's bid faces an uphill battle, with hurdles that probably rise above those usually confronting a corporate bidder. Already, lawmakers in Washington are questioning whether the Bush administration should intervene to block the bid for Unocal, which was founded in 1890 as the Union Oil Company of California.
Two Republican representatives from California, Richard W. Pombo and Duncan Hunter, wrote a letter last week to President Bush, after speculation concerning the deal arose, urging that the transaction be scrutinized on the grounds of national security.
They wrote: "As the world energy landscape shifts, we believe that it is critical to understand the implications for American interests and most especially, the threat posed by China's governmental pursuit of world energy resources. The United States increasingly needs to view meeting its energy requirements within the context of our foreign policy, national security and economic security agenda."
Energy Secretary Samuel W. Bodman said at a meeting of the National Petroleum Council late Wednesday that the government's review of the deal would be "truly a complex matter," according to Reuters.
In Beijing, Liu Jianchao, a spokesman for the Foreign Ministry, told reporters on Tuesday that "this is a corporate issue," according to Bloomberg News. "I can't comment on this individual case," Mr. Liu said, "but I can say we encourage the U.S. to allow normal trade relations to take place without political interference."
TCL, a Chinese company that began by making cassette tapes in 1981, is suddenly the world's biggest television set maker, after its acquisition last July of the television business of Thomson of France, which owned the old RCA brand.
Chinese companies still have a long way to go to become global giants that can compete head-to-head with Toyota, Siemens or General Electric. Most of the China deals are small in value - about $1 billion to $2 billion - when compared with big American or European deals.
Whether CNOOC's bid will succeed on it merits is unclear. It is interested in Unocal, once known for its 76 brand, less for its exploration and production in North America than for its huge reserves in Asia. Twenty-seven percent of Unocal's proven oil reserves and 73 percent of its proven natural gas reserves are in Asia, according to Merrill Lynch.
To succeed, CNOOC will have to persuade Unocal's shareholders to vote against their deal with Chevron. The new deal would then face a shareholder vote.
Even though CNOOC's offer is worth $1.5 billion more than Chevron's, some shareholders could still decide that the regulatory review process and the time required to complete a deal with CNOOC would pose too great a risk, given the size of the offer.
Chevron, which could raise its bid to counter CNOOC, is racing to complete its deal and submit it to a shareholder vote as early as August. The company made no specific comment on the Chinese offer.
CNOOC's all-cash offer values Unocal at $67 a share. Chevron's cash and stock offer values Unocal at $61.26 a share, based on Chevron's closing price on Wednesday of $58.27 a share. Shares of Unocal jumped 2.2 percent, to $64.85, as investors anticipated CNOOC's higher bid.
In CNOOC's letter to Unocal, it went to great lengths to say that its bid was friendly, despite being unsolicited. "This friendly, all-cash proposal is a superior offer for Unocal shareholders," wrote CNOOC's chairman and chief executive, Fu Chengyu.
Trying to assuage concerns of some in Washington, CNOOC pledged to continue Unocal's practice of selling all of the oil and gas produced in the United States back to customers in the United States. The company also said it would retain substantially all of Unocal's employees in the United States.
David Barboza contributed reporting from Shanghai for this article and Andrew Ross Sorkin from New York.
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IceIsFun
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 10:59 Post subject:
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This is pretty huge, it will be interesting to see how this unfolds. I'm inclined to agree that energy resources should fall under the realm of national security, at least until superior energy resources are put into use.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 11:04 Post subject:
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This is pretty interesting. Playing the national security card is a slippery slope though; what isn't national security if you look at it right? Farming and food production, steel, chemicals, biotech, aviation, media, financial services etc.
About the only industries I can think of that wouldn't be national security would be maybe cosmetics, advertizing, inexpensive consumer products and entertainment
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motherface
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 11:12 Post subject:
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I'd say anything you use on a regular basis would be part of National Security. Certainly energy is toward the top of the totem pole, along with food and water. I sure as f**k wouldn't want China supplying our food.
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khrath
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 11:16 Post subject:
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this is old news, they just want oil rights to some shit we barely use
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shinja mayoke
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 18:18 Post subject:
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I dont think we should have ANY open trading with communist countries, period.
Any immigrants from there should be here only under political asylum, as well.
Open trade with a government type we have been openly opposed to for the last however many years is a slap in the face of all of the veterans who fought overseas against them.
f**k China. f**k communists.
Energy is of UTMOST importance to a nation's security.
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Fattguyy
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 18:20 Post subject:
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Napolean once said something about China!
That also reminds me of something Freud said about America!
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 18:28 Post subject:
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Looks like I'll get to kill some commies in a couple years.
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 18:29 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Looks like I'll get to kill some commies in a couple years. |
Its alot different talking about killing someone and actually doing it.
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Fattguyy
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 18:29 Post subject:
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| wellspoken wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Looks like I'll get to kill some commies in a couple years. |
Its alot different talking about killing someone and actually doing it. |
I suppose, just like Deer hunting!
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 18:30 Post subject:
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| Fattguyy wrote: | | wellspoken wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Looks like I'll get to kill some commies in a couple years. |
Its alot different talking about killing someone and actually doing it. |
I suppose, just like Deer hunting! |
haha.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 18:31 Post subject:
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| wellspoken wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Looks like I'll get to kill some commies in a couple years. |
Its alot different talking about killing someone and actually doing it. |
At the very least I'll be able to kill 1 person. I feel the same way about killing people as I do animals anyway and I don't hate the animals. I doubt I'll have any trouble with it.
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Fattguyy
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 18:37 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | wellspoken wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Looks like I'll get to kill some commies in a couple years. |
Its alot different talking about killing someone and actually doing it. |
At the very least I'll be able to kill 1 person. I feel the same way about killing people as I do animals anyway and I don't hate the animals. I doubt I'll have any trouble with it. |
What if you died before killing anyone? I know you would be dead and not care, and no one outside your family would remember you again, but would that suck?
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 18:47 Post subject:
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| Fattguyy wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | wellspoken wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Looks like I'll get to kill some commies in a couple years. |
Its alot different talking about killing someone and actually doing it. |
At the very least I'll be able to kill 1 person. I feel the same way about killing people as I do animals anyway and I don't hate the animals. I doubt I'll have any trouble with it. |
What if you died before killing anyone? I know you would be dead and not care, and no one outside your family would remember you again, but would that suck? |
Even if I do kill someone the only people that will remember me are my family. I would have to do something worthy of a Medal of Honor or at least a Navy Cross or maybe Silver Star to be remembered. Distinguished Service line of medals too maybe but most people don't recognize those. I didn't enlist to be remembered man.
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 18:49 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | wellspoken wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Looks like I'll get to kill some commies in a couple years. |
Its alot different talking about killing someone and actually doing it. |
At the very least I'll be able to kill 1 person. I feel the same way about killing people as I do animals anyway and I don't hate the animals. I doubt I'll have any trouble with it. |
Its pretty sad that you can compare the life of a deer with a human being. I hope you get yours when the time comes.
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Fattguyy
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 18:50 Post subject:
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| wellspoken wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | wellspoken wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Looks like I'll get to kill some commies in a couple years. |
Its alot different talking about killing someone and actually doing it. |
At the very least I'll be able to kill 1 person. I feel the same way about killing people as I do animals anyway and I don't hate the animals. I doubt I'll have any trouble with it. |
Its pretty sad that you can compare the life of a deer with a human being. I hope you get yours when the time comes. |
There`s a few people I'd rather see die then them innocent deer!
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Brael
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 18:52 Post subject:
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I would tend to agree, selling China energy supplies is bad. We don't need to be making China stronger.
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Scrabler
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I'd kill every one of the chinks if I had the chance. Same with muslims.
Damn Americans need to stop being such liberal p*****s and find some hate. The Greatest Generation had it right. Hate the f*****s and put them into camps; it's WAR.
You don't want to believe this is WWIII(or WWIV)? Ok, just wait and see what happenes over the next 5-10 years. Christianity vs. Islam..which side are you on?
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NickPSH
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I'm on the side that will live when an inexorable tide of blood will consume nearly all of mankind.
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khrath
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Ignoring china is dumb, they're more powerful than us, it'd be like mexico putting sanctions on us.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 20:33 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | | Ignoring china is dumb, they're more powerful than us, it'd be like mexico putting sanctions on us. |
Lol more powerful than us?
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Brael
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 20:35 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: |
I'd kill every one of the chinks if I had the chance. Same with muslims.
Damn Americans need to stop being such liberal p*****s and find some hate. The Greatest Generation had it right. Hate the f*****s and put them into camps; it's WAR.
You don't want to believe this is WWIII(or WWIV)? Ok, just wait and see what happenes over the next 5-10 years. Christianity vs. Islam..which side are you on? |
I'm on the Jews side because everyone knows they're secretly playing Christians and Muslims against eachother. Honestly I wish people would stop killing eachother over religion since it's all fake. We need to be killing eachother over worthwhile things such as one country having hotter women than another.
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motherface
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 21:34 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Lol more powerful than us? |
Woops, looks like someone blindly eats up all that "We're #1" shit that he's fed.
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Fattguyy
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 21:43 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | | Ignoring china is dumb, they're more powerful than us, it'd be like mexico putting sanctions on us. |
I agree.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 21:57 Post subject:
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| motherface wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Lol more powerful than us? |
Woops, looks like someone blindly eats up all that "We're #1" shit that he's fed. |
Show me how they are stronger than us. All they have over us is bodies in their country.
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Frehya
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 22:09 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Christianity vs. Islam..which side are you on? |
Neither, they're both idiots following hocus pocus.
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Alerik
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If they don't already, they will soon have an educated middle class larger then our entire U.S. population. One of the reasons we can't have so many low income minorities stagnating and wasting our resources.
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Rothander
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 22:39 Post subject:
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China has our army like out numbered 9 to 1, in pure man power.
China has the fastest developing economy on earth.
a war with china would be a bad thing. but i definately thing we need to keep then reignd in. Sanctions whatever it takes, they are f*****g up the world economy.
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shinja mayoke
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 22:40 Post subject:
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Its sad that someone really believes China could present any real threat to the US.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/23/05 - 22:47 Post subject:
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| Rothander wrote: | China has our army like out numbered 9 to 1, in pure man power.
China has the fastest developing economy on earth.
a war with china would be a bad thing. but i definately thing we need to keep then reignd in. Sanctions whatever it takes, they are f*****g up the world economy. |
This isn't 2006 BC. Their large number of bodies means shit.
So what if their economy is growing fast; they're still much smaller than us and wll probably falter before they catch up.
I agree war with them would suck but we would win no question about it. Their consumption of resources sucks..we need to stop that.
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