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Spitulski
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This thread is a great representation of our government - liberals and conservatives clashing heads on anything at all, regardless of how relevant it really is.
Did I also mention this thread really, really sucks? Great representation, absolutely perfect.
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lauren000
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 23:11 Post subject:
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It will never happen, there would be a civil war if it did.
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kbarr
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Location: New York, now go fuck off...
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 23:31 Post subject:
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| lauren000 wrote: | | It will never happen, there would be a civil war if it did. |
I wish.
I pray.
Adjustments need to be made.
A shift.
BTW, you are a liar and a freak, kill yourself and get it over with.
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Janoth
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 23:44 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | lauren000 wrote: | | It will never happen, there would be a civil war if it did. |
I wish.
I pray.
Adjustments need to be made.
A shift.
BTW, you are a liar and a freak, kill yourself and get it over with. |
You are absolutely f*****g right. This country DOES need a civil war. Only problem is, if it happened, the rest of the world would jump on us like a bunch of f*****g vultures.
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Frehya
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 00:49 Post subject:
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Actually, I think we just need a great big ole world flood and an ark.
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khrath
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 01:11 Post subject:
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| lauren000 wrote: | | It will never happen, there would be a civil war if it did. |
There is already one going on in case you hadn't noticed, it just doesn't involve guns or mass homocide. It's what our country is built around, and neither side will ever win.
That's why I agree with kbarr, we do need a real civil war to get rid of our broken governmental system that holds our country back from being the #1 super power.
By the time the rest of the country acknowledges this, it'll be too late and we'll be a broken country full of starving and out of work people who spend their lives making china and india richer and more powerful.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 01:27 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | | lauren000 wrote: | | It will never happen, there would be a civil war if it did. |
There is already one going on in case you hadn't noticed, it just doesn't involve guns or mass homocide. It's what our country is built around, and neither side will ever win.
That's why I agree with kbarr, we do need a real civil war to get rid of our broken governmental system that holds our country back from being the #1 super power.
By the time the rest of the country acknowledges this, it'll be too late and we'll be a broken country full of starving and out of work people who spend their lives making china and india richer and more powerful. |
I'd be all for a real civil war if we didn't have to worry about other countries at the same time. It's obvious which side in the US would win though.
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Orbit
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 01:56 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | | lauren000 wrote: | | It will never happen, there would be a civil war if it did. |
There is already one going on in case you hadn't noticed, it just doesn't involve guns or mass homocide. It's what our country is built around, and neither side will ever win.
That's why I agree with kbarr, we do need a real civil war to get rid of our broken governmental system that holds our country back from being the #1 super power.
By the time the rest of the country acknowledges this, it'll be too late and we'll be a broken country full of starving and out of work people who spend their lives making china and india richer and more powerful. |
But thats the road Bush is taken us down.. Its all about the profit of the company f**k the people.
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quotison
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 02:44 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | | lauren000 wrote: | | It will never happen, there would be a civil war if it did. |
There is already one going on in case you hadn't noticed, it just doesn't involve guns or mass homocide. It's what our country is built around, and neither side will ever win.
That's why I agree with kbarr, we do need a real civil war to get rid of our broken governmental system that holds our country back from being the #1 super power.
By the time the rest of the country acknowledges this, it'll be too late and we'll be a broken country full of starving and out of work people who spend their lives making china and india richer and more powerful. |
Just curious, but what exactly needs to be done to our broken governmental system? Specifics please. And if we need a civil war to make necessary changes, doesn't that mean democracy doesn't work?
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Eindar
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 06:06 Post subject:
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I like how you blame Clinton. That's great. So when I was part of the wealthiest generation in American History, that must have been Bush Sr., the guy we got rid of after one term, and not Clinton, who we resoundingly kept for 2 terms despite a **** scandal and possible impeachment. Was it Bush Sr. who balanced the budget, or was he the one who racked up trillions in debt? Oh, wait, that was BOTH Bushes who ruined the economy!
I think it would be stupid for the GOP to repeal the amendment at this point. If Clinton ran again, Bush would LOSE. At least if they keep term limits in place, the current democrats are garbage, and a GOP guy might win again. I'm personally looking for someone to come into office who will practice fiscal responsibility; democrat, republican, or otherwise.
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khrath
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 06:23 Post subject:
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| quotison wrote: | | Just curious, but what exactly needs to be done to our broken governmental system? Specifics please. And if we need a civil war to make necessary changes, doesn't that mean democracy doesn't work? |
It doesn't work, it never has.
| Orbit wrote: | | But thats the road Bush is taken us down.. Its all about the profit of the company f**k the people. |
If an organization is forced sacrafice goals that would increase it's overall power and networth, because it may make life harder on a few people, it is doomed to fail because it severely limits what it can do.
If an organization isn't limited by those little voices, it can grow and become powerful much faster. Some people will not be happy, but in either scenario you'll have unhappy people. Why not choose the one that helps the most people instead?
Sure we may be helping big companies, but without those big companies, the little people who cry about taxes wouldn't have jobs at all, then they'd really cry.
Companies aren't forceed to stay in the USA, they can leave if another country offers a better place to base their company out of. So yah, the USA has to cater to big companies, because we aren't a communist state and can't forrce them to stay here.
The exception is with the recent outsourcing. Companies can take advantage of all the bonuses the government gives them, without giving anything back to the people.
That's why democracy is broken currently.
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Zrazzt
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 09:23 Post subject:
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If bush is elected for life, I certainly hope someone does to him what he did to saddam to remove him, since saddam was an elected official...
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Isriam
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 10:31 Post subject:
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I enjoy watching idiots talk about shit they don't know. wait, was congress republican or democratic during clintons term?
what about 1998 who remembers that "clinton" year?
Yea the economy was on the upturn when GWB took over wasn't it.
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Maldek
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 10:36 Post subject:
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civil war is so old news. i think war from space with aliens & cyborgs would be way sweeter.
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Luturb
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 11:56 Post subject:
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| Maldek wrote: | | civil war is so old news. i think war from space with aliens & cyborgs would be way sweeter. |
Agreed
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Goraz
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 14:24 Post subject: Re: Bush as President for LIFE?
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| wellspoken wrote: | http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=96&contentid=2303
Is it really possible? Bush For Life? House Judiciary Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.)has sponsored legislation to amend the Constitution by repealing the 22nd Amendment, which confines the President to two terms.
Sensenbrenner, architect of the National ID requirements, which are a violation of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, is also a prime supporter of the repeal of the Bill of Rights using the USA PATRIOT Act.
If the Republicans hold their current strength, or increase it, in the 2006 Congressional elections, US citizens can expect this measure to pass allowing Bush to remain President.
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution.
Bill introduced in House http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.J.RES.24.IH:
Notice this is on the Library of Congress server, where the current Congressional record is maintained)
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution.
If this actually happened; can you say assassination? |
This will never f*****g happen.
Congress has a better chance of legalizing gay marriage than this being amended.
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 14:29 Post subject: Re: Bush as President for LIFE?
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| Goraz wrote: | | wellspoken wrote: | http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=96&contentid=2303
Is it really possible? Bush For Life? House Judiciary Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.)has sponsored legislation to amend the Constitution by repealing the 22nd Amendment, which confines the President to two terms.
Sensenbrenner, architect of the National ID requirements, which are a violation of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, is also a prime supporter of the repeal of the Bill of Rights using the USA PATRIOT Act.
If the Republicans hold their current strength, or increase it, in the 2006 Congressional elections, US citizens can expect this measure to pass allowing Bush to remain President.
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution.
Bill introduced in House http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.J.RES.24.IH:
Notice this is on the Library of Congress server, where the current Congressional record is maintained)
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution.
If this actually happened; can you say assassination? |
This will never f*****g happen.
Congress has a better chance of legalizing gay marriage than this being amended. |
I hope you're right. For all of our's sake.
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Frax
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Location: Fuck yoiu fucking fuckers
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 14:31 Post subject:
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| Zrazzt wrote: | | If bush is elected for life, I certainly hope someone does to him what he did to saddam to remove him, since saddam was an elected official... |
So inaccurate. Saddam ascended to the presidency of Iraq by telling the former president he would hand over power or Saddam and his cronies would kill him. Thats not exactly being elected.
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Wyckedone
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 22:53 Post subject:
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Simply put the Democrats are falling apart. It will take a extemely strong candidate from the Democrats to beat a Republican Presidential Candidate and I don't think it will be in time for the next elections.. I believe Rudy Guiliani maybe the next President of the United States
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kbarr
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Posted: 06/16/05 - 23:34 Post subject:
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| Wyckedone wrote: | | Simply put the Democrats are falling apart. It will take a extemely strong candidate from the Democrats to beat a Republican Presidential Candidate and I don't think it will be in time for the next elections.. I believe Rudy Guiliani maybe the next President of the United States |
No way.
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Orbit
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 00:15 Post subject:
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| Wyckedone wrote: | | Simply put the Democrats are falling apart. It will take a extemely strong candidate from the Democrats to beat a Republican Presidential Candidate and I don't think it will be in time for the next elections.. I believe Rudy Guiliani maybe the next President of the United States |
Yeah Rudy had a girlfriend on the side while he was still married.. Dont think so try again!
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 00:26 Post subject:
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Wyckedone
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 00:41 Post subject:
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Clinton had several interludes And if he had run against Bush in 2000 He would have won..
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khrath
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 00:53 Post subject:
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| Wyckedone wrote: | | Clinton had several interludes And if he had run against Bush in 2000 He would have won.. |
ick no he wouldn't have.
Clinton purposely cost hard working Americans hundreds of thousands of jobs, crippled our military, and abused his office to aid criminals.
f**k that a*****e, I wouldn't vote for him, neither would many democrats =p
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Orbit
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 00:56 Post subject:
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| Wyckedone wrote: | | Clinton had several interludes And if he had run against Bush in 2000 He would have won.. |
Sorry but if the republicans plan on winning they will HAVE to have the christian backing.. No way it will happen..
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Orbit
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 00:58 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | | Wyckedone wrote: | | Clinton had several interludes And if he had run against Bush in 2000 He would have won.. |
ick no he wouldn't have.
Clinton purposely cost hard working Americans hundreds of thousands of jobs, crippled our military, and abused his office to aid criminals.
f**k that a*****e, I wouldn't vote for him, neither would many democrats =p |
And Bush didnt? They all do it.. Its all about who has the money! At least Clinton didnt put us in to major dedit like Bush.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 01:06 Post subject:
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| Orbit wrote: | | Wyckedone wrote: | | Clinton had several interludes And if he had run against Bush in 2000 He would have won.. |
Sorry but if the republicans plan on winning they will HAVE to have the christian backing.. No way it will happen.. |
Why do you think Bush hasn't dropped under 45% or so approval at all? The strong right Christians are loyal. A Republican win in '08 will be pretty easy.
Btw, did you know they already make Cheney/Bush '08 bumper stickers? I'm gonna get one.
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Orbit
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 01:09 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Orbit wrote: | | Wyckedone wrote: | | Clinton had several interludes And if he had run against Bush in 2000 He would have won.. |
Sorry but if the republicans plan on winning they will HAVE to have the christian backing.. No way it will happen.. |
Why do you think Bush hasn't dropped under 45% or so approval at all? The strong right Christians are loyal. A Republican win in '08 will be pretty easy.
Btw, did you know they already make Cheney/Bush '08 bumper stickers? I'm gonna get one. |
Loyal to a fault? You think they will back up some that has a girl on the side when he was married.. If they do they so much more proven that they are the hypocrites here..
Make sure you get the one with "Made In China" On it! 
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quotison
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 01:12 Post subject:
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Clinton left office with 65% approval rating, it certainly seems possible he could win a third term.
If Guiliani could win the republican nomination he might have a good shot at winning, but I don't think he does. It doesn't seem like the Republicans would nominate a moderate pro-choice candidate at the moment.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/17/05 - 01:13 Post subject:
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| Orbit wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Orbit wrote: | | Wyckedone wrote: | | Clinton had several interludes And if he had run against Bush in 2000 He would have won.. |
Sorry but if the republicans plan on winning they will HAVE to have the christian backing.. No way it will happen.. |
Why do you think Bush hasn't dropped under 45% or so approval at all? The strong right Christians are loyal. A Republican win in '08 will be pretty easy.
Btw, did you know they already make Cheney/Bush '08 bumper stickers? I'm gonna get one. |
Loyal to a fault? You think they will back up some that has a girl on the side when he was married.. If they do they so much more proven that they are the hypocrites here..
Make sure you get the one with "Made In China" On it! |
What's hypocritical? Christ is the #1 forgiver.
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