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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 11:28 Post subject: Bush as President for LIFE?
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http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=96&contentid=2303
Is it really possible? Bush For Life? House Judiciary Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.)has sponsored legislation to amend the Constitution by repealing the 22nd Amendment, which confines the President to two terms.
Sensenbrenner, architect of the National ID requirements, which are a violation of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, is also a prime supporter of the repeal of the Bill of Rights using the USA PATRIOT Act.
If the Republicans hold their current strength, or increase it, in the 2006 Congressional elections, US citizens can expect this measure to pass allowing Bush to remain President.
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution.
Bill introduced in House http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.J.RES.24.IH:
Notice this is on the Library of Congress server, where the current Congressional record is maintained)
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution.
If this actually happened; can you say assassination?
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Owyyn
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 11:31 Post subject:
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Them crazy Republicans. What will they do next?
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khrath
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 11:34 Post subject:
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IF that happened, i'd support it. BUT it wont because that site yer reading is total b******t.
Communist china is the #1 world power because they dont have a different party coming in every 8 years to mess shit up.
America is weak, very weak, we couldn't win a war against china even if they cut their army in half and gave up 50% of their national income.
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 11:36 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | IF that happened, i'd support it. BUT it wont because that site yer reading is total b******t.
Communist china is the #1 world power because they dont have a different party coming in every 8 years to mess shit up.
America is weak, very weak, we couldn't win a war against china even if they cut their army in half and gave up 50% of their national income. |
Probably is, some girl here at work pointed it out to me... the site itself looks satire..
And yes, a war with Red China would suck major ass.
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khrath
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 11:38 Post subject:
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Guess I should explain why i'd support it.
I can do so with 2 words.
Ronald Reagan
Just imagine if he hadn't been limited to 8 years.
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sinrakin
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 11:41 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | Guess I should explain why i'd support it.
I can do so with 2 words.
Ronald Reagan
Just imagine if he hadn't been limited to 8 years. |
I would rather have Reagan than Bush any f*****g day of the week.
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Maldek
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 11:43 Post subject:
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| wellspoken wrote: | | khrath wrote: | Guess I should explain why i'd support it.
I can do so with 2 words.
Ronald Reagan
Just imagine if he hadn't been limited to 8 years. |
I would rather have Reagan than Bush any f*****g day of the week. |
Clinton was a smooth pimp w/ the ladies, he deserved 20 years+
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Manuva
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 11:46 Post subject:
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Let them repeal the 22nd, you still have to be reelected. Bush would never win a third term.
I find the 22nd kind of retarded anyways. If the population is still backing a President, why limit his term, especially when congress has no term limits and they're the ones who have the biggest hands in domestic policy.
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 11:51 Post subject:
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cool.
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khrath
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 11:51 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: | | If the population is still backing a President, why limit his term |
exactly
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 11:51 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: | Let them repeal the 22nd, you still have to be reelected. Bush would never win a third term.
I find the 22nd kind of retarded anyways. If the population is still backing a President, why limit his term, especially when congress has no term limits and they're the ones who have the biggest hands in domestic policy. |
He sure won't! Nor any other republican for that matter!
Next term will probably go to dem (hopefully a good one) and then after that; who knows.
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khrath
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 12:06 Post subject:
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| wellspoken wrote: | | Manuva wrote: | Let them repeal the 22nd, you still have to be reelected. Bush would never win a third term.
I find the 22nd kind of retarded anyways. If the population is still backing a President, why limit his term, especially when congress has no term limits and they're the ones who have the biggest hands in domestic policy. |
He sure won't! Nor any other republican for that matter!
Next term will probably go to dem (hopefully a good one) and then after that; who knows. |
I highly doubt it.
The only reason anyone voted for Kerry was because his last name wasn't Bush.
Democrats don't stand for anything anymore, they're just anti republican.
When I think of democrats i think of all the servicemen and women who made a lifetime commitment to our military, just to get kicked to the curb, so that clinton could give the upper middle class a tax break, while raising taxes on the poor.
Ya know...I doubt i'd vote democrat even if the republicans ran Michael moore as their candidate.
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Gethy
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 12:09 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Ya know...I doubt i'd vote democrat even if the republicans ran Michael moore as their candidate. |
Meanwhile, Satan flicks the icicle from his nose.
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 12:13 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | | wellspoken wrote: | | Manuva wrote: | Let them repeal the 22nd, you still have to be reelected. Bush would never win a third term.
I find the 22nd kind of retarded anyways. If the population is still backing a President, why limit his term, especially when congress has no term limits and they're the ones who have the biggest hands in domestic policy. |
He sure won't! Nor any other republican for that matter!
Next term will probably go to dem (hopefully a good one) and then after that; who knows. |
I highly doubt it.
The only reason anyone voted for Kerry was because his last name wasn't Bush.
Democrats don't stand for anything anymore, they're just anti republican.
When I think of democrats i think of all the servicemen and women who made a lifetime commitment to our military, just to get kicked to the curb, so that clinton could give the upper middle class a tax break, while raising taxes on the poor.
Ya know...I doubt i'd vote democrat even if the republicans ran Michael moore as their candidate. |
Raising taxes on the poor? Im definately not rich, not poor, but not rich. Things were MUCH easier when Clinton was in office, maybe not for you... but for me it was nice. Gas was much cheaper, we had jobs, etc..
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Manuva
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 12:13 Post subject:
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Republicans are going to be in power for awhile simply because the democrats don't have a platform to stand on other than "Hey, at least we're not THEM!"
While that is enough for the hippie leftwingers and unionized workers who are horribly brainwashed to blame every problem in the country on republicans; it doesn't fly with the rest of the country.
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 12:14 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: | Republicans are going to be in power for awhile simply because the democrats don't have a platform to stand on other than "Hey, at least we're not THEM!"
While that is enough for the hippie leftwingers and unionized workers who are horribly brainwashed to blame every problem in the country on republicans; it doesn't fly with the rest of the country. |
People are fed up with the way Bush is running this country. I know i am.
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Occulis
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 12:18 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | Guess I should explain why i'd support it.
I can do so with 2 words.
Ronald Reagan
Just imagine if he hadn't been limited to 8 years. |
Alzheimers.
Are you serious?
"Just imagine how much good a man slowly going insane could have done our country."
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Soriak
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 12:19 Post subject:
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I'm in favor of 2-term limits, change is a good thing. However I'd rather have the President's term be 6 years and 4 instead of 2 years for the houses.
That way people would actually have time to govern and not be concerned with re-election as soon as they won the first round.
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 12:20 Post subject:
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| Soriak wrote: | I'm in favor of 2-term limits, change is a good thing. However I'd rather have the President's term be 6 years and 4 instead of 2 years for the houses.
That way people would actually have time to govern and not be concerned with re-election as soon as they won the first round. |
I agree... change is definately a good thing.
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Manuva
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 12:22 Post subject:
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| wellspoken wrote: | | Manuva wrote: | Republicans are going to be in power for awhile simply because the democrats don't have a platform to stand on other than "Hey, at least we're not THEM!"
While that is enough for the hippie leftwingers and unionized workers who are horribly brainwashed to blame every problem in the country on republicans; it doesn't fly with the rest of the country. |
People are fed up with the way Bush is running this country. I know i am. |
I agree.
This is the only thing the Democrats have going for them, and they can't even use it right.
"Yes Mr. Dean, I know the country is broken. What I want to know is what the f**k are you people going to do to fix it?"
All the Democrats are doing is standing there and shouting Bush did this and Bush did that, the damage is done, when are they going to offer a viable way to fix the damage instead of pointing out that it's broken?
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Scrabler
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 12:25 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: | | wellspoken wrote: | | Manuva wrote: | Republicans are going to be in power for awhile simply because the democrats don't have a platform to stand on other than "Hey, at least we're not THEM!"
While that is enough for the hippie leftwingers and unionized workers who are horribly brainwashed to blame every problem in the country on republicans; it doesn't fly with the rest of the country. |
People are fed up with the way Bush is running this country. I know i am. |
I agree.
This is the only thing the Democrats have going for them, and they can't even use it right.
"Yes Mr. Dean, I know the country is broken. What I want to know is what the f**k are you people going to do to fix it?"
All the Democrats are doing is standing there and shouting Bush did this and Bush did that, the damage is done, when are they going to offer a viable way to fix the damage instead of pointing out that it's broken? |
It's the standard liberal "There must be a better way!". They never know what the f**k to do though.
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 12:26 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: | | wellspoken wrote: | | Manuva wrote: | Republicans are going to be in power for awhile simply because the democrats don't have a platform to stand on other than "Hey, at least we're not THEM!"
While that is enough for the hippie leftwingers and unionized workers who are horribly brainwashed to blame every problem in the country on republicans; it doesn't fly with the rest of the country. |
People are fed up with the way Bush is running this country. I know i am. |
I agree.
This is the only thing the Democrats have going for them, and they can't even use it right.
"Yes Mr. Dean, I know the country is broken. What I want to know is what the f**k are you people going to do to fix it?"
All the Democrats are doing is standing there and shouting Bush did this and Bush did that, the damage is done, when are they going to offer a viable way to fix the damage instead of pointing out that it's broken? |
Yeah they can be idiots too... lol
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killswitch
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 12:57 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: |
If the population is still backing a President, why limit his term |
In short to keep someone from using a state of emergency *cough*9/11*cough* to rally rabid nationalism and establish himself as a facist dictator.
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Bait Masterson
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 13:04 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | IF that happened, i'd support it. BUT it wont because that site yer reading is total b******t.
Communist china is the #1 world power because they dont have a different party coming in every 8 years to mess shit up.
America is weak, very weak, we couldn't win a war against china even if they cut their army in half and gave up 50% of their national income. |
Mainly because our Citzenry are a bunch of Socialist crybaby p*****s who would be happy to be ruled by The China of thier dreams. (not the china of Reality)
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Bait Masterson
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 13:11 Post subject:
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| Maldek wrote: | | wellspoken wrote: | | khrath wrote: | Guess I should explain why i'd support it.
I can do so with 2 words.
Ronald Reagan
Just imagine if he hadn't been limited to 8 years. |
I would rather have Reagan than Bush any f*****g day of the week. |
Clinton was a smooth pimp w/ the ladies, he deserved 20 years+ |
In jail for selling out our f*****g country.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/1/14/143258.shtml
Readers digest version:
Clinton's transfer allowed the Chinese army to acquire advanced U.S. technology for military purposes. Hughes satellites currently provide the Chinese army with secure communications that are invulnerable to earth combat and highly accurate all-weather navigation for strike bombers and missiles.
Hughes satellites purchased by Shen also provide direct TV and cable TV broadcasts to most of Asia. Thus, cable and pay-per-view services help pay for the Chinese army satellite communications. The brilliant planning and logistics mean that Chinese military communications pay for themselves.
The satellite and missile technology obtained from Hughes by the Chinese army is critical for the design and manufacture of missile nose cones and electronic missile control systems. The technology clearly helped the Chinese army field a new generation of ICBMS, including the Dong Feng 31 missile, which can drop three nuclear warheads on any city in the U.S.
The success of Shen is a story of missiles, politics and greed. Gen. Shen succeeded in using Hughes and President Clinton as valuable tools to obtain weapons that are now pointed at the United States.
China won and the U.S. lost what may very well be the first round of World War III. Gen. Shen led that victory and he did it with a checkbook. The Clinton legacy for the 21st century is a new arms race.
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Manuva
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 13:11 Post subject:
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| killswitch wrote: | | Manuva wrote: |
If the population is still backing a President, why limit his term |
In short to keep someone from using a state of emergency *cough*9/11*cough* to rally rabid nationalism and establish himself as a facist dictator. |
Look, one of the idiots on both sides that wellspoken was talking about!
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wellspoken
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 13:14 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: | | killswitch wrote: | | Manuva wrote: |
If the population is still backing a President, why limit his term |
In short to keep someone from using a state of emergency *cough*9/11*cough* to rally rabid nationalism and establish himself as a facist dictator. |
Look, one of the idiots on both sides that wellspoken was talking about! |
haw haw
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quotison
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 13:22 Post subject:
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Heh, anyone remember when Republicans used to be so enthusastic about term limits?
Anyways, term limits are popular with the public (even if the premise for them is irrational), so I don't think this will have much support, from democrats or republicans. Even if Republicans all supported this idea, they would have a very hard time passing such an amendment through Congress. Assuming no Democratic support, and I don't see why Democrats would ever support such a thing, they would need 12 more seats in the Senate, and 58 more in the House. I think Republicans would also need to take control of like 10 more state Legislatures.
As a side note, it is interesting to see some of you so-called patriotic Republicans bemoan the fact that we have more then one party, unlike "#1 China".
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Brael
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Posted: 06/15/05 - 13:34 Post subject:
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| killswitch wrote: | | Manuva wrote: |
If the population is still backing a President, why limit his term |
In short to keep someone from using a state of emergency *cough*9/11*cough* to rally rabid nationalism and establish himself as a facist dictator. |
A dictator that is still reelected every 4 years... anyways removing term limits is a good thing. The only thing that is good about them is presidents are much more free right now to do what they really believe should be done during their second term and not just what will get them elected like they have to during the first. When you have to worry about re-election constantlly that doesn't happen.
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