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The Gossipmonger
Luke Warm
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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 Posted: 03/21/03 - 13:01 Post subject: Broken/ignored UN Security Council resolutions
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Iraq: 12
Israel: 68
Which was the rogue state again Vekril? Not Israel, which claims that its enriched plutonium facility is actually a textile factory! And that Israeli cargo plane that crashed into Amsterdam a few years ago wasn't carrying parts to construct nerve gas! But then again, Israel never lies, and they have excuses for everything.
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Kbarr
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 15:34 Post subject: Re: Broken/ignored UN Security Council resolutions
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| The Gossipmonger wrote: | Iraq: 12
Israel: 68
Which was the rogue state again Vekril? Not Israel, which claims that its enriched plutonium facility is actually a textile factory! And that Israeli cargo plane that crashed into Amsterdam a few years ago wasn't carrying parts to construct nerve gas! But then again, Israel never lies, and they have excuses for everything. |
Stop worring about israel you blowhard. Worry about your own country that is chopped up into how many 7? slices of crazy people. I have never heard of mass graves in israel have you?
You f*****g idiot.
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compusmack
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 15:39 Post subject: Re: Broken/ignored UN Security Council resolutions
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| Kbarr wrote: | | The Gossipmonger wrote: | Iraq: 12
Israel: 68
Which was the rogue state again Vekril? Not Israel, which claims that its enriched plutonium facility is actually a textile factory! And that Israeli cargo plane that crashed into Amsterdam a few years ago wasn't carrying parts to construct nerve gas! But then again, Israel never lies, and they have excuses for everything. |
Stop worring about israel you blowhard. Worry about your own country that is chopped up into how many 7? slices of crazy people. I have never heard of mass graves in israel have you?
You f*****g idiot.
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LOL no shit..
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Maelstrom
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 15:46 Post subject:
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WTF no mass Orgies? 
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Kbarr
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 15:49 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | | WTF no mass Orgies? |
Look! up in the tree, a common canadian, dull crested, retard sighting!
How lucky we all are!
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Akronn
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 15:53 Post subject: Re: Broken/ignored UN Security Council resolutions
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Stop worring about israel you blowhard. Worry about your own country that is chopped up into how many 7? slices of crazy people. I have never heard of mass graves in israel have you? |
Whoa! But there are indeed mass graves in Israel, hell they were up to this as recent as last year (Jenin refugee camp).
There were a number of 'em in '67 too.
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Kbarr
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 15:56 Post subject: Re: Broken/ignored UN Security Council resolutions
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| Akronn wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Stop worring about israel you blowhard. Worry about your own country that is chopped up into how many 7? slices of crazy people. I have never heard of mass graves in israel have you? |
Whoa! But there are indeed mass graves in Israel, hell they were up to this as recent as last year (Jenin refugee camp).
There were a number of 'em in '67 too. |
Interesting, show me the link to mass graves in israel.
I want to see.
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WheresNWS
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 16:04 Post subject: Re: Broken/ignored UN Security Council resolutions
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| Akronn wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Stop worring about israel you blowhard. Worry about your own country that is chopped up into how many 7? slices of crazy people. I have never heard of mass graves in israel have you? |
Whoa! But there are indeed mass graves in Israel, hell they were up to this as recent as last year (Jenin refugee camp).
There were a number of 'em in '67 too. |
Last I heard the UN said there were no mass graves.
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Akronn
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 16:09 Post subject:
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1937387.stm
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/jenin020422.html
Here's what your precious Israel did last year, they leveled a damn refugee camp and was in the process of burying the bodies:
| Quote: | Terje Roed-Larsen, who toured the Jenin refugee camp on Thursday, said it was "morally repugnant" that Israel had not allowed emergency workers in for 11 days to provide humanitarian relief...
...Palestinians claim hundreds of bodies are buried beneath the rubble, but Israel says the numbers of dead are far fewer. An independent forensic expert says evidence suggests that a massacre has taken place.
Mr Roed-Larsen said the top priority was to bring in search-and-rescue teams. The only rescue efforts currently under way are residents digging though the ruins looking for survivors.
"It is totally destroyed, it looks like an earthquake has hit it," he said. |
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Akronn
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 16:12 Post subject: Re: Broken/ignored UN Security Council resolutions
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| WheresNWS wrote: | | Last I heard the UN said there were no mass graves. |
The UN can't find WoMD in Iraq = we don't believe it!
The UN can't find mass graves in Israel = it's true!
That owns.
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 16:12 Post subject:
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I'm as Conservative as they come, but for f**k sake I will agree until I die that something has to be done about both Israel and Palestine.
If the US or the (if it happens to rain frogs..) U.N. would happen to turn their dogs to Israel and call them on some of the shit they're pulling, I think we'd see alot more stability in the Middle East.
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Kbarr
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 16:23 Post subject:
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| Akronn wrote: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1937387.stm
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/jenin020422.html
Here's what your precious Israel did last year, they leveled a damn refugee camp and was in the process of burying the bodies:
| Quote: | Terje Roed-Larsen, who toured the Jenin refugee camp on Thursday, said it was "morally repugnant" that Israel had not allowed emergency workers in for 11 days to provide humanitarian relief...
...Palestinians claim hundreds of bodies are buried beneath the rubble, but Israel says the numbers of dead are far fewer. An independent forensic expert says evidence suggests that a massacre has taken place.
Mr Roed-Larsen said the top priority was to bring in search-and-rescue teams. The only rescue efforts currently under way are residents digging though the ruins looking for survivors.
"It is totally destroyed, it looks like an earthquake has hit it," he said. |
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This is not a mass grave, and your sorces are a bit suspect.
Thats them bombing the shit out of people.
Don't change the subject.
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WheresNWS
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 16:26 Post subject: Re: Broken/ignored UN Security Council resolutions
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| Akronn wrote: | | WheresNWS wrote: | | Last I heard the UN said there were no mass graves. |
The UN can't find WoMD in Iraq = we don't believe it!
The UN can't find mass graves in Israel = it's true!
That owns. |
"Last I heard the UN said there were no mass graves." Didn't put up an argument because that was just the last I heard. I do know there were a lot of claims early on about it, which were later disputed, as this slightly more recent article shows:
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020501-5587072.htm
A 1.7:1 kill ratio isn't really a "massacre" as was claimed by the obviously biased Palestinians.
FYI, I'm not pro-Isreal. We support them way too much.
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Pankrat
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 16:35 Post subject:
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| Akronn wrote: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1937387.stm
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/jenin020422.html
Here's what your precious Israel did last year, they leveled a damn refugee camp and was in the process of burying the bodies:
| Quote: | Terje Roed-Larsen, who toured the Jenin refugee camp on Thursday, said it was "morally repugnant" that Israel had not allowed emergency workers in for 11 days to provide humanitarian relief...
...Palestinians claim hundreds of bodies are buried beneath the rubble, but Israel says the numbers of dead are far fewer. An independent forensic expert says evidence suggests that a massacre has taken place.
Mr Roed-Larsen said the top priority was to bring in search-and-rescue teams. The only rescue efforts currently under way are residents digging though the ruins looking for survivors.
"It is totally destroyed, it looks like an earthquake has hit it," he said. |
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Woops you forgot to mention Akronn that those claims have since been debunked, here is a quote right off the UN website (hardly a pro-Israeli institution) from the report on Jenin:
"55. Press reports from the days in question and subsequent interviews by representatives of non-governmental organizations with camp residents suggest that an average of five Palestinians per day died in the first three days of the incursion and that there was a sharp increase in deaths on 6 April.
56. Fifty-two Palestinian deaths had been confirmed by the hospital in Jenin by the end of May 2002. IDF also place the death toll at approximately 52. A senior Palestinian Authority official alleged in mid-April that some 500 were killed, a figure that has not been substantiated in the light of the evidence that has emerged.
57. It is impossible to determine with precision how many civilians were among the Palestinian dead. The Government of Israel estimated during the incursion that there were "only dozens killed in Jenin … and the vast majority of them bore arms and fired upon [IDF] forces". Israeli officials informed United Nations personnel that they believed that, of the 52 dead, 38 were armed men and 14 were civilians. The Palestinian Authority has acknowledged that combatants were among the dead, and has named some of them, but has placed no precise estimates on the breakdown. Human rights organizations put the civilian toll closer to 20 - Human Rights Watch documented 22 civilians among the 52 dead, while Physicians for Human Rights noted that "children under the age of 15 years, women and men over the age of 50 years accounted for nearly 38 per cent of all reported fatalities".
58. The Israeli Defence Forces stated at the time that their methods might not change, "because the basic assumption is that we are operating in a civilian neighbourhood". Other accounts of the battle suggest that the nature of the military operation in Jenin refugee camp did alter after 9 April 2002. On that day, in what both the Palestinian Authority and the Government of Israel describe as a "well-planned ambush" 13 IDF soldiers were killed and a number of others wounded. A fourteenth soldier died elsewhere in the camp that day, bringing the IDF death toll during the operation in Jenin to 23."
http://www.un.org/peace/jenin/index.html
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Akronn
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 16:36 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: |
This is not a mass grave, and your sorces are a bit suspect.
Thats them bombing the shit out of people.
Don't change the subject. |
Hell even if that isn't it (it was, or was going to be but we interrupted their party), they still have graves from '67. The Egyptians know all about those...
edit: everyone sides with Israel, Pankrat, or else we'd be after them. 
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Vekril
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 16:42 Post subject:
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Akronn I know you post half your babble to get a rise out of a certain Jewish friend, but you are full of shit with your Jenin post. Everyone cried MASSACRE MASSACRE, and then when the anti-Israeli human rights groups went in after the fact, they found 50something dead - predominantly militants and terrorists who died in armed combat. That is battle casualties, and the UN and everyone else cleared Israel of any massacre claims.
UN resolutions against Israel? yeah there are a shitload, and there is also a proven bias against Israel by every Arab and Muslim nation, adn most of Europe, who coddle the Arabs for their oil and money and pass anti-Israel resolutions. Most of the European diplomatic class and much of its citizenry wishes Hitler had finished the job, hell new evidence was just released about French railroad companies shipping Jews out of FREE France (not the Vichy area) to German camps for slaughter as late as 1944...
Israel has nukes and WMD? yep they sure do, and they have also proven that they will not use them, and the only military action Israel takes are in defense of its own borders and citizens. They didnt even go after Saddam's reactor in 1982 until he said publicly that it was built to remove the Zionist entity from the Middle East. Israel has nukes and weapons to prevent 5 Arab nations from attackign them like they did 5 times in the last half century.
Is Israel perfect? hell no
but they are not a threat to the world through hte proliferation of WMD like rogue nations are, they do not support terrorism, and they are not imperialistic. The 1967 "occupied territories" were part of the original 1948 borders of Israel, that Egypt and Jordan seized in the war for independence...
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Kbarr
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 16:44 Post subject:
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No matter what you say about israel, Kosovo is worse. Gossip likes to talk shit about the US/Israel, but he never aims the shit at the country that he comes from.
Maybe because where he comes from, is about as f****d up a place as you can get.
Thats a fact.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 03/21/03 - 21:47 Post subject:
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I thought it was pretty clear that bush doesnt give a shit what you do as long as it doesnt threaten the US or its citizens... israel is clearly not a threat, eventually one side will win and niether is less guilty than the other but its gonna play out eventually.
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