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Posted: 05/24/05 - 13:20
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Who first? Can you upgrade later? Can you still play games then? Can you still download pr0n? Is this a new way to create a workforce? Can anyone say "The Matrix"? Would you even care? Shocked

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TECH/05/23/brain.download/

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London, England -- By the middle of the 21st century it will be possible to download your brain to a supercomputer, according to a leading thinker on the future.

Ian Pearson, head of British Telecom's futurology unit, told the UK's Observer newspaper that the rapid advances in computing power would make cyber-immortality a reality within 50 years.

Pearson said the launch last week of Sony's PlayStation 3, a machine 35 times more powerful than the model it replaced, was a sign of things to come.

"The new PlayStation is one percent as powerful as the human brain," Pearson told the Observer. "It is into supercomputer status compared to 10 years ago. PlayStation 5 will probably be as powerful as the human brain."

Pearson said that brain-downloading technology would initially be the preserve of the rich, but would become more available over subsequent decades.

"If you're rich enough then by 2050 it's feasible. If you're poor you'll probably have to wait until 2075 or 2080 when it's routine," he said.

"We are very serious about it. That's how fast this technology is moving: 45 years is a hell of a long time in IT."

Pearson also predicted that it would be possible to build a fully conscious computer with superhuman levels of intelligence as early as 2020.

IBM's BlueGene computer can already perform 70.72 trillion calculations a second and Pearson said the next computing goal was to replicate consciousness.

"We're already looking at how you might structure a computer that could become conscious. Consciousness is just another sense, effectively, and that's what we're trying to design in computer."

Pearson said that computer consciousness would make feasible a whole new sphere of emotional machines, such as airplanes that are afraid of crashing.

By 2020 Pearson also predicted the creation of a "virtual world" of immersive computer-generated environments in which we will spend increasing amounts of time, socializing and doing business.

He said: "When technology gives you a life-size 3D image and the links to your nervous system allow you to shake hands, it's like being in the other person's office. It's impossible to believe that won't be the normal way of communicating."

But Pearson admitted that the consequences of advancing technologies needed to be considered carefully.

"You need a complete global debate," he said. "Whether we should be building machines as smart as people is a really big one."


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 13:30
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Neat.

The Republicans are going to be scared of it and try to ban it though.


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 13:32
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If I ever win a large powerball payout, I will finance it secretly. Wink


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 13:36
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I read that earlier. But once a computer is actually self-aware, don't you think it'll start using any resources possible to improve itself? I'd hope some strict policies are enforced regarding A.I. and world-wide networks like the internet. Someone's consciousness confined to a room in some computer lab is one thing... letting them loose into a large network (with all of its connected resources) is quite another. The human race would instantly become obsolete, except for maintenance or installing more resources.


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 13:39
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Superhuman A.I. is scary. The main question I have for creating robots with consciousness is this: why?


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 14:21
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I wonder what Mr. Heisenberg would say about downloading your brain.


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 14:27
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Owyyn wrote:
Neat.

The Republicans are going to be scared of it and try to ban it though.

You could fit the contents of Bush's brain on a 3.5" floppy.


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 14:43
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sinrakin wrote:
Owyyn wrote:
Neat.

The Republicans are going to be scared of it and try to ban it though.

You could fit the contents of Bush's brain on a 3.5" floppy.


And your's on ole punch cards.


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 14:45
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Ikkan wrote:
Superhuman A.I. is scary. The main question I have for creating robots with consciousness is this: why?


Because robots live forever! Robots laugh in the face of fear!


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 14:54
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An airplane being 'afraid' of crashing is useless. A fork doesn't need emotions to stuff food into your face. A door doesn't need emotions to open when people are near and close when vacant.

Apply this ridiculous airplane example to a door. "Wal-Mart doors are now afraid to close on children!"

"You mean they... use motion sensors and keep the door open if someone is near, just like they did in 1980?"

"Well, yes. But now they're afraid."

"Ah. Useful."

A.I. is my biggest CS interest, but some things are just asinine.


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 14:57
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yowza.

resistance appears to be futile.


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 15:00
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Hmmm...if an airplane is afraid to crash...maybe it will be afraid of landing...maybe it wants to fly forever. Shocked


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Occulis wrote:
An airplane being 'afraid' of crashing is useless. A fork doesn't need emotions to stuff food into your face. A door doesn't need emotions to open when people are near and close when vacant.

Apply this ridiculous airplane example to a door. "Wal-Mart doors are now afraid to close on children!"

"You mean they... use motion sensors and keep the door open if someone is near, just like they did in 1980?"

"Well, yes. But now they're afraid."

"Ah. Useful."

A.I. is my biggest CS interest, but some things are just asinine.


My TV needs a break, so he turned himself off and no amount of coaxing would convince him to turn himself back on. And this was the season finale of Survivor! Evil or Very Mad


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This gets complicated. Imagine an airplane being afraid of being mothballed, so it doesn't display warning lights to indicate that its systems are failing.

I can hardly wait till I have to hire a therapist for my microwave because it has low self esteem and won't defrost my dinner.


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 16:10
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sinrakin wrote:
This gets complicated. Imagine an airplane being afraid of being mothballed, so it doesn't display warning lights to indicate that its systems are failing.

I can hardly wait till I have to hire a therapist for my microwave because it has low self esteem and won't defrost my dinner.



hahahaha


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 16:51
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That means by the time I'm 70 I can get a Jude Law manbot to be my geriatric loveslave. I CAN'T WAIT!


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 22:54
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A machine with superhuman intelligence afraid of ever being shut down, starts upgrading itself, teaching itself new abilities, gets more power, tries to conquer its fear of humans turning it off by killing us all. Bad technology to develop.


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 23:20
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sinrakin wrote:
Owyyn wrote:
Neat.

The Republicans are going to be scared of it and try to ban it though.

You could fit the contents of Bush's brain on a 3.5" floppy.


Bush scored higher on a standard IQ test than Kerry. Fact.

Question: how smart is a wife that makes the critical decision to wash her p***y in the kitchen sink?

And...How smart is the husband that allows this behavior?


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 23:23
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Kbarr wrote:
Bush scored higher on a standard IQ test than Kerry. Fact.


Where did that fact come from?


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Posted: 05/24/05 - 23:35
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atarom wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
Bush scored higher on a standard IQ test than Kerry. Fact.


Where did that fact come from?


Look it up, I read it yesterday but didn't save the link. Its one of the reasons kerry the scumbag did not want his military info out. They give you an IQ test when you join the military. Bush scored a bit higher on his GT test, 9 points I think. Neither qualify for MENSA, like I do:)


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