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remember if your thinking of buying for your revolutionary needs go with the AK for durability.
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| Luturb wrote: | | Assault weapons are just an easy target because they are scary and nobody really *needs* an assault rifle. If you look at crime statistics you will see that the weapon of choice for criminals is a handgun, not an assault rifle. Do I *need* an assault rifle? I sure don't. Is there any reason that I shouldn't be able to get one being a law-abiding citizen who would not use it to hurt anyone? Nope. |
its basically the same as the laws that dont let kids bring butter knives to school, shit scares people and then they ban it, who cares if you can still bring serrated pens and artist tools in atleast the would be killer will have to hit up the arts n crafts or staples store before comin to school.. even for a cop which is the only valid no ar arguement i think they are more afraid of shotguns and shit then an assault riffle.. for whoever mentioned body armor, a decent handgun will punch through body armor at close range just as well as a assault riffle,
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 16:30 Post subject: Re: Assault Weapons Legal Tuesday
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| Kemble wrote: | | hunnybunny wrote: | hmm... im not sure what i think about this. I did notice it neglected to mention that kerry (who has been on record during his campaign saying he "wont be a candidate of the NRA" etc- decided that doesnt apply if he's campaigning in PA) was seen earlier.. he was somewhere out by harrisburg in hickville amish country campaigning with an assault rifle, carrying it proudly or whatever... Bush on the other hand is expected to be a supporter of the NRA, but is also playing politics by doing the "ill sign it if it gets passed by congress" trying to get soft undecided voters-- He knows it will *never.. ever* get passed by congress.. they're both such damn hypocrits!
summary: Starting tuesday morning you can go to your local gun shop, and for an affordable price purchase weapons such as M-16s, AK-47s, uzis, MEC somethings and 15 other types of guns (im no expert) that have scared the cops shitless. Can you imagine a criminal with an AK-47 and a cop trying to stop him with a little pistol? hmm.. if this gets passed they need to at least arm the police officers better. In short the argument is that NRA members say the country will be safer with assault weapons widely available for purchase, opposition says its crazy, and almost everyone in congress, plus the candidates are scared to go against the NRA because it will be the end of their political career. Also on tuesday larger cartriges will be available legally so you dont have to stop and refill your gun as much.
This is a hmm.... kinda thing for me- even if you're a big supporter of the NRA its kind of scary how much power/influence they have. I personally think that the right to bear arms is important, and as long as you arent insane, have a criminal record, or the ability to use insanity as a defense, then it is your constitutional right. But this makes me wonder- as i said before im no gun expert, so could someone please explain to me what in the world you would need an assault rifle for as a regular citizen? If your answer is safety, also please explain why it must be a large, scary gun (that doesnt need to be refilled as much) rather than a little pistol? Maybe im missing something.. but i really dont understand.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/09/politics/main642104.shtml?CMP=ILC-SearchStories
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The top picture is a pre-ban 'evil' assault weapon, and the lower picture is a 100% legal post-ban weapon. Whats the difference you ask? The stock on the pre-ban is a little bit shorter and the flash suppressor on the post-ban is slightly different. Wow! That really handicapped the criminals.
Hunnybunny's opinion on this is all too common unfortunately. People think this 'ban' really did something. They think it took guns off the streets and prevented law enforcement from being out-gunned by criminals. Nothing could be farther from the truth. All it did was raise the prices of rifles & accessories that were manufactured before the ban went into effect.
Why do people want a large gun that doesn't have to be refilled as much? People that are concerned with personal safety want the best tool for the job. They don't want someone telling them what is sufficient and what is overkill. The ban doesn't prevent people from owning monster .50 caliber handguns that are much more powerful than an AR15. It doesn't stop people from legally owning a fully automatic M16. Pretty much anyone that can get a gun permit can qualify for a Class III license (which lets you own fully auto weapons).
As long as the federal background checks remain in place (and they will), I see no reason to renew the ban. The only reason most people support it is a combination of scare tactics from the gun control lobby and the lack of education regarding firearms that exists in the American public. |
I understand what you're saying- and i probably would be about the same as the average american information wise on this topic (which is why i asked like 1000 questions in my original post  .. im not very educated or informed on this particular topic- and i know it). As a result i really dont have a strong opinion on most NRA issues. I think that it should be legal for someone who knows what they're doing to carry a concealed pistol as a citizen. I also dont think that the laws should be incredibly strict as long as they proficiently attempt to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals or anyone who can use insanity as a defense in court (in fact i think it should be a binding contract when you buy a gun that you wont use that defense)- other than that im pretty leinient (too lazy for dictionary.com check right now).
I do see how it is kind of pointless if other automatic weapons are currently legal.. and i guess i would clump those together with my uneducated classification of "big scary fast shooting guns" (BSFSG)- i still havent seen a very good dumbed-down (for the non-gun-expert) explaination of why you would need these. Safety wise are you expecting an army of robbers, criminals or terrorists to come storming into your house to the effect that you feel the need for a "BSFSG"? They hardly look like something you would carry in a purse to prevent a mugging. As far as the government explaination.. i hope you people were kidding, but if you werent, we could have the best freaking guns in the hands of every citizen of the USA and if the government wanted to take over we'd still get our asses kicked.
People may not want to be told what they can and cannot own gun-wise, and perhaps the expiring law might be hypocritical.. i honestly dont know whether i would support renewing it or not, but shouldnt there be *some* limit keeping at least the most dangerous guns out of the mass-market sales? (I'm sure they'll be on the black market no matter what available to criminals on a much smaller scale.. but by that argument we should legalize drugs too). I'm not really looking for a debate as much as just more perspective to understanding all of the facts because right now i certainly dont  .
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 16:53 Post subject:
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| fagarom wrote: | | rather, explain the logistical need for an assault weapon. |
Define "assault" weapon.
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| Kbarr wrote: | | fagarom wrote: | | rather, explain the logistical need for an assault weapon. |
Define "assault" weapon. |
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Finally the lug on my AR-15 will be legal /cackle.
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 19:48 Post subject: Re: Assault Weapons Legal Tuesday
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| Quote: | | Can you imagine a criminal with an AK-47 and a cop trying to stop him with a little pistol? hmm.. if this gets passed they need to at least arm the police officers better. In short the argument is that NRA members say the country will be safer with assault weapons widely available for purchase, opposition says its crazy, and almost everyone in congress, plus the candidates are scared to go against the NRA because it will be the end of their political career. Also on tuesday larger cartriges will be available legally so you dont have to stop and refill your gun as much. |
uummmm, cops already have assault weapons in their squad cars in most cities. also swat team deals with the high powered shit. as a regular citizen you don't need an assault weapon for safety expecially since there is some astronomical percentage that guns in the household hurt/kill more family members than protect lives and families.
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 20:53 Post subject: Re: Assault Weapons Legal Tuesday
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| themy wrote: | | Quote: | | Can you imagine a criminal with an AK-47 and a cop trying to stop him with a little pistol? hmm.. if this gets passed they need to at least arm the police officers better. In short the argument is that NRA members say the country will be safer with assault weapons widely available for purchase, opposition says its crazy, and almost everyone in congress, plus the candidates are scared to go against the NRA because it will be the end of their political career. Also on tuesday larger cartriges will be available legally so you dont have to stop and refill your gun as much. |
uummmm, cops already have assault weapons in their squad cars in most cities. also swat team deals with the high powered shit. as a regular citizen you don't need an assault weapon for safety expecially since there is some astronomical percentage that guns in the household hurt/kill more family members than protect lives and families. |
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 21:16 Post subject:
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b******t.
I'm fully of the opinion that if some fool is in my living room unhooking my stereo, he's going to peacefully leave and never come back if I mosey on in with a modified AR-15 with a 37mm Bushmaster launcher mounted to it. Shit looks scary, especially if you're on the recieving end. And with the scope that's on it, I can choose whether or not a red dot gets painted on the intruder's forehead. Perhaps strobe it on and off. Who knows.
And if shit does go to high hell here in the next couple decades, which it very well might, I'd far much rather be prepared than be a f*****g pansy and refuse to protect myself. Contrary to popular idiotic belief, we aren't locked in a g*****n safe in this country. You may get up, drink your coffee and go to work every day but there's at least one person in your city that gets up, polishes their handgun and sets out on their business of assaulting and robbing people. 911 takes a couple minutes to get your ass into safety - a S&W 500 offers protection instantly. Once I'm 21, I'm investing in the latter.
Oh, the ban? Right on. My Mossberg grips will be legal. Woot.
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 21:33 Post subject:
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So basically you want a big huge gun because you're paranoid?
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 21:37 Post subject:
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No, I'm a realist.
Paranoids would sit there polishing it with all the doors and windows locked, quietly rocking back and forth while humming a warped version of the Star Spangled Banner. That =/= me.
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 21:41 Post subject:
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Honestly. I believe that people should have weapons. They should be appropriate for the sport they are in or game they are hunting. They should of course be a well regulated thing. Much like they are now.
Banning these weapons would have an impact upon their availability to the criminal elements whoi seek them but it would not prevent them from obtaining them. As large and as porous as the borders of this nation, there is no way to preven them from entering and making their way into the hands of criminals.
In short: Banning weapons or stripping the right to posess them from law abiding citizens would not prevent criminals from having them.
Finally, is this really that important of a f*****g issue to our nation at all?
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i'd be interested to watch the rate of gun related injuries/deaths over the next four years if the ban is not renewed. that's all.
as long as my friends and family don't get shot i dont really mind. maybe rednecks will kill themselves off. but with the rate at which they reproduce, it's highly unlikely.
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| Spitulski wrote: | b******t.
I live in an apartment. I've been robbed before - my $3400 guitar walked out the door and it took me and a few of my friends to retrieve it. I'm not about to let anything like that happen again, especially since my posessions have certainly risen in value since a year and a half ago. The very fact that there are multiple high-power weapons in lockdown in this here apartment brings me incredible peace of mind. Not because I feel like discharging a 40-round clip of 30.6 and a couple 37mm shells in a private community is a good idea. Not because I really want someone to bust in just so I can shoot em.
I'm fully of the opinion that if some fool is in my living room unhooking my stereo, he's going to peacefully leave and never come back if I mosey on in with a modified AR-15 with a 37mm Bushmaster launcher mounted to it. Shit looks scary, especially if you're on the recieving end. And with the scope that's on it, I can choose whether or not a red dot gets painted on the intruder's forehead. Perhaps strobe it on and off. Who knows.
And if shit does go to high hell here in the next couple decades, which it very well might, I'd far much rather be prepared than be a f*****g pansy and refuse to protect myself. Contrary to popular idiotic belief, we aren't locked in a g*****n safe in this country. You may get up, drink your coffee and go to work every day but there's at least one person in your city that gets up, polishes their handgun and sets out on their business of assaulting and robbing people. 911 takes a couple minutes to get your ass into safety - a S&W 500 offers protection instantly. Once I'm 21, I'm investing in the latter.
Oh, the ban? Right on. My Mossberg grips will be legal. Woot. |
Haha yeah I love when people use how safe we are and there is no chance of an invasion of any sort as a reason I don't need full auto weapons. We aren't a fortress of safty and it's not going to get any better considering how many people in the world(and in US)hate us. One day we will have to fight on our own land in our own streets..it may not happen anytime soon or in my lifetime but one day it will, it has happened to every nation in history. When that time comes I hope the citizens are able to at least defend themselves if not fight back the enemy.
As for home protection I prefer the Street Sweeper..can't beat a full auto 12-gauge for s******g-of-thy-burglar's pants action.
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 21:49 Post subject:
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you wont be able to purchase new guns people, the limits will be the same. Just more cosmetic accesory's are allowed and bigger clips.
Look it up on the NRA's website.
Machine guns are still banned from the machine gun act of 1934 or some shit.
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 21:51 Post subject:
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| fagarom wrote: | | So basically you want a big huge gun because you're paranoid? |
You ignored my question.
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 21:54 Post subject:
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| Yabden wrote: | you wont be able to purchase new guns people, the limits will be the same. Just more cosmetic accesory's are allowed and bigger clips.
Look it up on the NRA's website.
Machine guns are still banned from the machine gun act of 1934 or some shit. |
Wow, this is a perfect example of how clueless people can be, and still think they know a lot.
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 21:56 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Spitulski wrote: | b******t.
I live in an apartment. I've been robbed before - my $3400 guitar walked out the door and it took me and a few of my friends to retrieve it. I'm not about to let anything like that happen again, especially since my posessions have certainly risen in value since a year and a half ago. The very fact that there are multiple high-power weapons in lockdown in this here apartment brings me incredible peace of mind. Not because I feel like discharging a 40-round clip of 30.6 and a couple 37mm shells in a private community is a good idea. Not because I really want someone to bust in just so I can shoot em.
I'm fully of the opinion that if some fool is in my living room unhooking my stereo, he's going to peacefully leave and never come back if I mosey on in with a modified AR-15 with a 37mm Bushmaster launcher mounted to it. Shit looks scary, especially if you're on the recieving end. And with the scope that's on it, I can choose whether or not a red dot gets painted on the intruder's forehead. Perhaps strobe it on and off. Who knows.
And if shit does go to high hell here in the next couple decades, which it very well might, I'd far much rather be prepared than be a f*****g pansy and refuse to protect myself. Contrary to popular idiotic belief, we aren't locked in a g*****n safe in this country. You may get up, drink your coffee and go to work every day but there's at least one person in your city that gets up, polishes their handgun and sets out on their business of assaulting and robbing people. 911 takes a couple minutes to get your ass into safety - a S&W 500 offers protection instantly. Once I'm 21, I'm investing in the latter.
Oh, the ban? Right on. My Mossberg grips will be legal. Woot. |
Haha yeah I love when people use how safe we are and there is no chance of an invasion of any sort as a reason I don't need full auto weapons. We aren't a fortress of safty and it's not going to get any better considering how many people in the world(and in US)hate us. One day we will have to fight on our own land in our own streets..it may not happen anytime soon or in my lifetime but one day it will, it has happened to every nation in history. When that time comes I hope the citizens are able to at least defend themselves if not fight back the enemy.
As for home protection I prefer the Street Sweeper..can't beat a full auto 12-gauge for s******g-of-thy-burglar's pants action.
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This is a class 3 weapon, it was banned in most states long before the "assault weapons ban" was put into effect by that democrat scumbag clinton.
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 22:00 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Spitulski wrote: | b******t.
I live in an apartment. I've been robbed before - my $3400 guitar walked out the door and it took me and a few of my friends to retrieve it. I'm not about to let anything like that happen again, especially since my posessions have certainly risen in value since a year and a half ago. The very fact that there are multiple high-power weapons in lockdown in this here apartment brings me incredible peace of mind. Not because I feel like discharging a 40-round clip of 30.6 and a couple 37mm shells in a private community is a good idea. Not because I really want someone to bust in just so I can shoot em.
I'm fully of the opinion that if some fool is in my living room unhooking my stereo, he's going to peacefully leave and never come back if I mosey on in with a modified AR-15 with a 37mm Bushmaster launcher mounted to it. Shit looks scary, especially if you're on the recieving end. And with the scope that's on it, I can choose whether or not a red dot gets painted on the intruder's forehead. Perhaps strobe it on and off. Who knows.
And if shit does go to high hell here in the next couple decades, which it very well might, I'd far much rather be prepared than be a f*****g pansy and refuse to protect myself. Contrary to popular idiotic belief, we aren't locked in a g*****n safe in this country. You may get up, drink your coffee and go to work every day but there's at least one person in your city that gets up, polishes their handgun and sets out on their business of assaulting and robbing people. 911 takes a couple minutes to get your ass into safety - a S&W 500 offers protection instantly. Once I'm 21, I'm investing in the latter.
Oh, the ban? Right on. My Mossberg grips will be legal. Woot. |
Haha yeah I love when people use how safe we are and there is no chance of an invasion of any sort as a reason I don't need full auto weapons. We aren't a fortress of safty and it's not going to get any better considering how many people in the world(and in US)hate us. One day we will have to fight on our own land in our own streets..it may not happen anytime soon or in my lifetime but one day it will, it has happened to every nation in history. When that time comes I hope the citizens are able to at least defend themselves if not fight back the enemy.
As for home protection I prefer the Street Sweeper..can't beat a full auto 12-gauge for s******g-of-thy-burglar's pants action.
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This is a class 3 weapon, it was banned in most states long before the "assault weapons ban" was put into effect by that democrat scumbag clinton. |
Alabama allows full auto.
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Spitulski wrote: | b******t.
I live in an apartment. I've been robbed before - my $3400 guitar walked out the door and it took me and a few of my friends to retrieve it. I'm not about to let anything like that happen again, especially since my posessions have certainly risen in value since a year and a half ago. The very fact that there are multiple high-power weapons in lockdown in this here apartment brings me incredible peace of mind. Not because I feel like discharging a 40-round clip of 30.6 and a couple 37mm shells in a private community is a good idea. Not because I really want someone to bust in just so I can shoot em.
I'm fully of the opinion that if some fool is in my living room unhooking my stereo, he's going to peacefully leave and never come back if I mosey on in with a modified AR-15 with a 37mm Bushmaster launcher mounted to it. Shit looks scary, especially if you're on the recieving end. And with the scope that's on it, I can choose whether or not a red dot gets painted on the intruder's forehead. Perhaps strobe it on and off. Who knows.
And if shit does go to high hell here in the next couple decades, which it very well might, I'd far much rather be prepared than be a f*****g pansy and refuse to protect myself. Contrary to popular idiotic belief, we aren't locked in a g*****n safe in this country. You may get up, drink your coffee and go to work every day but there's at least one person in your city that gets up, polishes their handgun and sets out on their business of assaulting and robbing people. 911 takes a couple minutes to get your ass into safety - a S&W 500 offers protection instantly. Once I'm 21, I'm investing in the latter.
Oh, the ban? Right on. My Mossberg grips will be legal. Woot. |
Haha yeah I love when people use how safe we are and there is no chance of an invasion of any sort as a reason I don't need full auto weapons. We aren't a fortress of safty and it's not going to get any better considering how many people in the world(and in US)hate us. One day we will have to fight on our own land in our own streets..it may not happen anytime soon or in my lifetime but one day it will, it has happened to every nation in history. When that time comes I hope the citizens are able to at least defend themselves if not fight back the enemy.
As for home protection I prefer the Street Sweeper..can't beat a full auto 12-gauge for s******g-of-thy-burglar's pants action.
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This is a class 3 weapon, it was banned in most states long before the "assault weapons ban" was put into effect by that democrat scumbag clinton. |
Alabama allows full auto. |
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 22:08 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Spitulski wrote: | b******t.
I live in an apartment. I've been robbed before - my $3400 guitar walked out the door and it took me and a few of my friends to retrieve it. I'm not about to let anything like that happen again, especially since my posessions have certainly risen in value since a year and a half ago. The very fact that there are multiple high-power weapons in lockdown in this here apartment brings me incredible peace of mind. Not because I feel like discharging a 40-round clip of 30.6 and a couple 37mm shells in a private community is a good idea. Not because I really want someone to bust in just so I can shoot em.
I'm fully of the opinion that if some fool is in my living room unhooking my stereo, he's going to peacefully leave and never come back if I mosey on in with a modified AR-15 with a 37mm Bushmaster launcher mounted to it. Shit looks scary, especially if you're on the recieving end. And with the scope that's on it, I can choose whether or not a red dot gets painted on the intruder's forehead. Perhaps strobe it on and off. Who knows.
And if shit does go to high hell here in the next couple decades, which it very well might, I'd far much rather be prepared than be a f*****g pansy and refuse to protect myself. Contrary to popular idiotic belief, we aren't locked in a g*****n safe in this country. You may get up, drink your coffee and go to work every day but there's at least one person in your city that gets up, polishes their handgun and sets out on their business of assaulting and robbing people. 911 takes a couple minutes to get your ass into safety - a S&W 500 offers protection instantly. Once I'm 21, I'm investing in the latter.
Oh, the ban? Right on. My Mossberg grips will be legal. Woot. |
Haha yeah I love when people use how safe we are and there is no chance of an invasion of any sort as a reason I don't need full auto weapons. We aren't a fortress of safty and it's not going to get any better considering how many people in the world(and in US)hate us. One day we will have to fight on our own land in our own streets..it may not happen anytime soon or in my lifetime but one day it will, it has happened to every nation in history. When that time comes I hope the citizens are able to at least defend themselves if not fight back the enemy.
As for home protection I prefer the Street Sweeper..can't beat a full auto 12-gauge for s******g-of-thy-burglar's pants action.
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You realize that if we are ever actually invaded by a foriegn power the fighting in our streets will consist of everyone being blown into constitute atoms before they can think about grabbing that gun right?.. not that i think ARs should be banned, just pointing that out in case you still thought a real modern war was gonna be like happy play time in vietnam or iraq or wwii.
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Yeah..and it's nice that my uncle has been with the sheriff's department for over 20 years so I have an easy way to get the police qualifications taken care of. And there are plenty of full auto places in AL. 
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 22:14 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Yabden wrote: | you wont be able to purchase new guns people, the limits will be the same. Just more cosmetic accesory's are allowed and bigger clips.
Look it up on the NRA's website.
Machine guns are still banned from the machine gun act of 1934 or some shit. |
Wow, this is a perfect example of how clueless people can be, and still think they know a lot. |
please inform me where I am wrong sir?
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Tolanin
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 22:16 Post subject:
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| Yabden wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Yabden wrote: | you wont be able to purchase new guns people, the limits will be the same. Just more cosmetic accesory's are allowed and bigger clips.
Look it up on the NRA's website.
Machine guns are still banned from the machine gun act of 1934 or some shit. |
Wow, this is a perfect example of how clueless people can be, and still think they know a lot. |
please inform me where I am wrong sir? |
assault weapons arent all machine guns?
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 22:20 Post subject:
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| Tolanin wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Spitulski wrote: | b******t.
I live in an apartment. I've been robbed before - my $3400 guitar walked out the door and it took me and a few of my friends to retrieve it. I'm not about to let anything like that happen again, especially since my posessions have certainly risen in value since a year and a half ago. The very fact that there are multiple high-power weapons in lockdown in this here apartment brings me incredible peace of mind. Not because I feel like discharging a 40-round clip of 30.6 and a couple 37mm shells in a private community is a good idea. Not because I really want someone to bust in just so I can shoot em.
I'm fully of the opinion that if some fool is in my living room unhooking my stereo, he's going to peacefully leave and never come back if I mosey on in with a modified AR-15 with a 37mm Bushmaster launcher mounted to it. Shit looks scary, especially if you're on the recieving end. And with the scope that's on it, I can choose whether or not a red dot gets painted on the intruder's forehead. Perhaps strobe it on and off. Who knows.
And if shit does go to high hell here in the next couple decades, which it very well might, I'd far much rather be prepared than be a f*****g pansy and refuse to protect myself. Contrary to popular idiotic belief, we aren't locked in a g*****n safe in this country. You may get up, drink your coffee and go to work every day but there's at least one person in your city that gets up, polishes their handgun and sets out on their business of assaulting and robbing people. 911 takes a couple minutes to get your ass into safety - a S&W 500 offers protection instantly. Once I'm 21, I'm investing in the latter.
Oh, the ban? Right on. My Mossberg grips will be legal. Woot. |
Haha yeah I love when people use how safe we are and there is no chance of an invasion of any sort as a reason I don't need full auto weapons. We aren't a fortress of safty and it's not going to get any better considering how many people in the world(and in US)hate us. One day we will have to fight on our own land in our own streets..it may not happen anytime soon or in my lifetime but one day it will, it has happened to every nation in history. When that time comes I hope the citizens are able to at least defend themselves if not fight back the enemy.
As for home protection I prefer the Street Sweeper..can't beat a full auto 12-gauge for s******g-of-thy-burglar's pants action.
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You realize that if we are ever actually invaded by a foriegn power the fighting in our streets will consist of everyone being blown into constitute atoms before they can think about grabbing that gun right?.. not that i think ARs should be banned, just pointing that out in case you still thought a real modern war was gonna be like happy play time in vietnam or iraq or wwii. |
You never know what it could be. I small rock could land in north nowhere russia and the next thing you know, blackout. Blackout for a few months, kill most of the plants and most of the food. Half the population on the world dies and America rises to the top and solidifies power of the planet. Now, before the USA takes over and rebuilds, I want to be armed. You never know what the hungry mexicans are gonna do, much less my next door neighbor.
Oh, BTW, I could build this exact gun before, and after, the "assault weapons ban".....
And you gotta admit, it looks beautiful.
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Scrabler
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Location: Mobile, AL
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 22:20 Post subject:
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| Tolanin wrote: | | Yabden wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Yabden wrote: | you wont be able to purchase new guns people, the limits will be the same. Just more cosmetic accesory's are allowed and bigger clips.
Look it up on the NRA's website.
Machine guns are still banned from the machine gun act of 1934 or some shit. |
Wow, this is a perfect example of how clueless people can be, and still think they know a lot. |
please inform me where I am wrong sir? |
assault weapons arent all machine guns? |
Well for one thing..MGs are not banned. Quite a few states allow them but it costs $500 or so in paperwork and checks for each gun. And you can't have any type of fellony on your record and you have your fingerprints and pasport pictures put into the FBI's files. You can own almost any MG you want if you're a good law-abiding citizen, it's just gonna cost ya and the FBI will keep a close eye on you.
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Yabden
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 22:25 Post subject:
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omg I love shotguns so much
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Scrabler
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 22:33 Post subject:
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| Quote: | You never know what it could be. I small rock could land in north nowhere russia and the next thing you know, blackout. Blackout for a few months, kill most of the plants and most of the food. Half the population on the world dies and America rises to the top and solidifies power of the planet. Now, before the USA takes over and rebuilds, I want to be armed. You never know what the hungry mexicans are gonna do, much less my next door neighbor.
Oh, BTW, I could build this exact gun before, and after, the "assault weapons ban".....
And you gotta admit, it looks beautiful.
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Very.
Anyway, my choices if the "revolution" happened would have to be..
M240G
M4/203
And a must - the Ma Duce
Very easy to have large quantities of 5.56 and 7.62 for the M240G and M4, maybe a little harder to gather 50 .cal rounds in mass due to cost though.
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 22:36 Post subject:
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| Yabden wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Yabden wrote: | you wont be able to purchase new guns people, the limits will be the same. Just more cosmetic accesory's are allowed and bigger clips.
Look it up on the NRA's website.
Machine guns are still banned from the machine gun act of 1934 or some shit. |
Wow, this is a perfect example of how clueless people can be, and still think they know a lot. |
please inform me where I am wrong sir? |
You want details on how uninformed you are concerning this subject?
Sorry, to much to type. You need to learn "stuff" on your own, then when you are SURE you know what you are talking about, you can post.
Its doesn't matter anyway...
My side won, the ban will fall in 2 days and hopefully prices drop.
They want 2 grand for this chinese knock off of the russian sniper....I think the russian version is over 5 grand. Insane prices, simply insane. If I would have known better I would have bought 500 russian ones before the ban, at 400 a pop and got rich.
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