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Smackmuh
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 Posted: 10/27/05 - 14:48 Post subject: Aquarium Question
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I know a few of you have really nice tanks, and I used to have a 20 gallon and a 15 gallon up and running, but the 20 got a leak and I don't feel like using a 15 gallon because I want it to be a focus point in the room. I was just wondering if you would suggest any fish, I wanted to stay freshwater due to the amount of work a salt water tank takes to keep up. I was thinking about getting a 60 gallon tank. Not really sure about aquariums been a few years since I've done one, I want it to look nice and be big enough for some of the nicer looking fish. Any input would help a ton.
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Pags
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 14:53 Post subject:
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My 125 gallon tank sprung a leak last night  Had to drain the whole thing and transfer my fish to a 55g my neighbor let me borrow.
Not sure if I'm going to have to sell the fish to a pet store, or buy another 125g tank...im broke as shit...so...;p
As far as freshwater fish go, african cichlids are cool, the malawai lake ones anyway. Some look as colorful as salt water...my neighbor has a 120g with african cichlids, looks pretty good.
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kbarr
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 14:57 Post subject:
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I have a forty with a 2 inch snapping turtle, 3 fresh water crabs, 2 quarter sized snails, mosquito fish for the turtle to chase and a few neons for color. Its also FILLED with fresh water shrimp, they are breeding in the tank. Red claws, fire shrimp and 2 others.
Color full bugs make for a better tank. There are so many out there, you just have to find a place that stocks them.
And it gives the turtle something to hunt.
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Pags
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 15:13 Post subject:
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That turtle looks bigger than two inches.
When I had a 10g set up as a feeder tank (rosy reds + shrimp (i think they're called glass shrimp?), the shrimp bred in there but the rosy reds usually would attack the females bearing eggs and eat them ;p
How far is your water level from the top of the tank?
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Galdaria
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 15:29 Post subject:
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Ciclids. Pretty colors, easy to take care of, fun to watch. These pics are crappy and they are much more vibrant in person. I personally only have bright yellow and neon blues in my tank.
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Pags
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 15:39 Post subject:
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Just type cichlid into google images and you'll get an idea of how many different species there are, and which ones you want.
Heres 4 that I liked on the first page..
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Sutto
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 15:44 Post subject:
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i have 5 fish tanks set up, setting up 6th very soon.... i have one guppy breeding tank, one tank of tetra's guppies for the gf, one tank to hold feeders, then i have my large tanks one has tiger shovelnose catfish, red tailed shark, lepard puffer, butterfly plucostumos(for alage), spotted pictus catfish and two albino channel catfish (its my catfish tank) and then my mean tank ... 12'' butterfly pluco (for algae) , 9'' or so Wolf Cichlid (he's a mean f****r) and an albino tiger oscar.... and my 8'' peacock bass got eatten the other morning by my wolf cichlid (was pretty sad not cheap fish to loose)
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myndwarrp
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 17:01 Post subject:
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Cichlids are very pretty, but *can* be high maintenance. Its a good option though thery tend to like bigger tanks. If youre staying under a 55, you could go with tetras( 3 or 4 varieties) and a few large angel fish. The regular angels, nah, but the veil's are beautiful. I have an 80 with 4 veil blacks, a school of 30 or so neon tetras, and another 10 or so various tetras. Very colorful and low maintenance.
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Yabden
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 18:09 Post subject:
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kbarr wins with the snapping turtle. Those things are awesome. We catch them in our yard about twice a year. Huge ones that probably weigh 30 pounds or so. Mean m***********s.
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scrotum
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 18:49 Post subject:
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Although shy, you should consider a Black Ghost Knifefish. They are very nice to sit and watch. Some tend to be lazy, while others are full of energy.
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Sabathius
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 18:57 Post subject:
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55 gallon tank of dead goldfish. Found out that our water is like acid for them. Yay!
I get to start over now.
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Sabathius
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 18:58 Post subject:
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we did name one of the black goldfish "Hannibal" because he lasted the longest and ate all the others.
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Nobunaga
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 19:07 Post subject: Re: Aquarium Question
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| Smackmuh wrote: | | I know a few of you have really nice tanks, and I used to have a 20 gallon and a 15 gallon up and running, but the 20 got a leak and I don't feel like using a 15 gallon because I want it to be a focus point in the room. I was just wondering if you would suggest any fish, I wanted to stay freshwater due to the amount of work a salt water tank takes to keep up. I was thinking about getting a 60 gallon tank. Not really sure about aquariums been a few years since I've done one, I want it to look nice and be big enough for some of the nicer looking fish. Any input would help a ton. |
African Cichlids are hearty and colorful but somewhat boring. South American Cichlids and Fish like Jack Dempseys and Pikes are fun and territorial while being realtively easy to maintain...
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Smackmuh
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 19:13 Post subject:
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| Sabathius wrote: | | we did name one of the black goldfish "Hannibal" because he lasted the longest and ate all the others. |
So what did this have to do with my post? Nothing, exactly, now shut the f**k up with your stupid posts.
On another note, I think I might look into some Cichlids for the tank with a school of neon tetras, just because every tank I've ever had has had a school of them.
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kbarr
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 19:20 Post subject:
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| Pags wrote: | That turtle looks bigger than two inches.
When I had a 10g set up as a feeder tank (rosy reds + shrimp (i think they're called glass shrimp?), the shrimp bred in there but the rosy reds usually would attack the females bearing eggs and eat them ;p
How far is your water level from the top of the tank? |
Its 4 inches from the top with lots of branches and rock platforms for the turtle to hang out on. I have a feeding ring set up right over his favorite spot for the standard floating food. I imagine the shrimp eat each others stuff, the crab too, the turtle just inhales them when he can. There is so much java moss/plants and spots to hide, the adults out think the turtle most times. If not I get more:) He rips apart every baby snail that hits the sand bottom. The 2 big ones will remain alone, their offspring are instant turtle snacks. And thats not a picture of my turtle, it looks about 3 or 4 inches though.
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kbarr
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 19:26 Post subject:
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| Sabathius wrote: | 55 gallon tank of dead goldfish. Found out that our water is like acid for them. Yay!
I get to start over now. |
The biggest thing about keeping fish is learing how to test and maintain water quality.
Its easy.
And gold fish are not tropical, I think they like neutral PH and cooler water.
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Conqueso
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 20:03 Post subject:
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| Smackmuh wrote: |
On another note, I think I might look into some Cichlids for the tank with a school of neon tetras, just because every tank I've ever had has had a school of them. |
I would recommend South American Cichlids over Africans. IMO, African Cichlids tend to be a bit more aggressive, especially if you want more than a couple of species. However, African Cichlids tend to be a bit more colorful all the time (most of the South American Cichlids develop better color only during breeding).
Be careful where the store gets it stock from, especially if you want to breed. Asian or Florida fish farm cichlids tend to be sterile due to breeding practices, water (extreme basic conditions), etc. German or wild caught are usually the best. My favorite South American cichlid species are Apistogramma Nijsseni and Microgeophagus Ramirezi. Both prefer slightly acidic water.
Be careful with neons and cardinals. I consider them little plague bearers. I have found neons especially vulnerable to velvet and ick. Neons (and sometimes cardinals) also do not get along with serpae tetra and occasionally emporer/phantom tetra.
Goldfish are sewage fish. If you start up a cichlid tank... don't get them. They are heavy polluters.
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Sutto
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 21:17 Post subject:
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if you want a cool looking school of fish, get tiger barbs mix them with albino tiger barbs and green tiger barbs get atleast 15-20 and its pretty sweet
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Sabathius
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 22:51 Post subject:
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since when do my posts have to have anything to do with yours. I'm not your employee. This isn't your job.
Shut your f*****g mouth.
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Smackmuh
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 23:14 Post subject:
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| Sabathius wrote: | since when do my posts have to have anything to do with yours. I'm not your employee. This isn't your job.
Shut your f*****g mouth. |
Then make your own topic about how you f****d up your fishtank.
| Conqueso wrote: | I would recommend South American Cichlids over Africans. IMO, African Cichlids tend to be a bit more aggressive, especially if you want more than a couple of species. However, African Cichlids tend to be a bit more colorful all the time (most of the South American Cichlids develop better color only during breeding).
Be careful where the store gets it stock from, especially if you want to breed. Asian or Florida fish farm cichlids tend to be sterile due to breeding practices, water (extreme basic conditions), etc. German or wild caught are usually the best. My favorite South American cichlid species are Apistogramma Nijsseni and Microgeophagus Ramirezi. Both prefer slightly acidic water.
Be careful with neons and cardinals. I consider them little plague bearers. I have found neons especially vulnerable to velvet and ick. Neons (and sometimes cardinals) also do not get along with serpae tetra and occasionally emporer/phantom tetra.
Goldfish are sewage fish. If you start up a cichlid tank... don't get them. They are heavy polluters. |
Thanks for the information about the cichlids, what would you reccomend for another type of fish in the tank? I was thinking about a smaller type of fish, something that would look good in a small school of fish. I know I could just google that, but I was looking for someone with experience with cichlids and how they would react with each other.
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Sabathius
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 23:21 Post subject:
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no
i like stir shit up, p**s you off.
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Smackmuh
Luke Warm
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Posted: 10/27/05 - 23:31 Post subject:
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| Sabathius wrote: | no
i like stir shit up, p**s you off. |
You english speak poorly.
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