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PostPosted: 07/23/03 - 21:58    Post subject: Anyone know if this is a real problem or a hoax? Reply with quote

809 Area Code

We actually received a call last week from the 809 area code. The woman said "Hey, this is Karen. Sorry I missed you--get back to us quickly. Have something important to tell you." Then she repeated a phone number beginning with 809. We didn't respond.

Then this week, we received the following email: Subject: DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809, 284 AND 876 THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY AT&T. DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809 This one is being distributed all over the US. This is pretty scary, especially given the way they try to get you to call. Be sure you read this and pass it on to all your friends and family so they don't get scammed!

MAJOR SCAM:
Don't respond to Emails, phone calls, or web pages which tell you to call an "809" area Phone Number.

This is a very important issue of Scam Busters because it alerts you to a scam that is spreading *extremely* quickly, can easily cost you $2400 or more, and is difficult to avoid unless you are aware of it.

We'd like to thank Verizon for bringing this scam to our attention. This scam has also been identified by the National Fraud Information Center and is costing victims a lots of money.

There are lots of different permutations of this scam.

HERE'S HOW IT WORKS:

You will receive a message on your answering machine or your pager, which asks you to call a number beginning with area code 809.
The reason you're asked to call varies.
It can be to receive information about a family member who has been ill, to tell you someone has been arrested, died, to let you know you have won a wonderful prize, etc.
In each case, you are told to call the 809 number right away.
Since there are so many new area codes these days, people unknowingly return these calls.

If you call from the US, you will apparently be charged $2425 per-minute. Or, you'll get a long recorded message.
The point is, they will try to keep you on the phone as long as possible to increase the charges. Unfortunately, when you get your phone bill, you'll often be charged more than $24,100.00.

WHY IT WORKS:
The 809 area code is located in the British Virgin Islands (The Bahamas). The 809 area code can be used as a "pay-per-call" number, similar to 900 numbers in the US.
Since 809 is not in the US, it is not covered by U.S. regulations of 900 numbers, which require that you be notified and warned of charges and rates involved when you call a pay-per-call" number.

There is also no requirement that the company provide a time period during which you may terminate the call without being charged. Further, whereas many U.S. homes that have 900 number blocking to avoid these kinds of charges, do not work in preventing calls to the 809 area code.

We recommend that no matter how you get the message, if you are asked to call a number with an 809 area code that you don't recognize, just disregard the message.

Be wary of email, or calls, asking you to call an 809 area code number. It's important to prevent becoming a victim of this scam, since trying to fight the charges afterwards can become a real nightmare. That's because you did actually make the call. If you complain, both your local phone company and your long distance carrier will not want to get involved and will most likely tell you that they are simply providing the billing for the foreign company. You'll end up dealing with a foreign company that argues they have done nothing wrong.

Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and colleagues to help them become aware of this scam.

Sandi
AT&T Field Service Manager
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PostPosted: 07/23/03 - 21:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

too many words
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PostPosted: 07/23/03 - 21:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry cut and pasted it from an e-mail =\
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PostPosted: 07/23/03 - 22:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't dial a phone number if you don't know who you're calling.

Follow that advice and you will never get f****d by phone scams (By dialing out Razz)
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PostPosted: 07/23/03 - 22:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to be a long distance AT&T operator and at that time 809 area code was to the Dominican Republic. I'm not sure about the dollar amounts in the email, but I do know that the 809 area code was the source of tons of phone scams and that it was used in place of 1-900 for those scams.

In general, if I didn't know anyone in an area code, I wouldn't call them back.
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PostPosted: 07/23/03 - 22:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.scambusters.org/809Scam.html
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PostPosted: 07/24/03 - 08:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just never return calls.. I never get cheated that way

-Nah-
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PostPosted: 07/24/03 - 09:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive gotten calls about winning a prize vacation and to call this number immediatly. YOU ONLY HAVE 24 HOURS to claim this prize!!!!!!

Then the next day. same message. You must call now!!

I still get them now and then. Ill have to check next time what number it is they ask me to call back. But its been going on for almost two months. Even though i only had 24 hours.

It's almost as stupid as the credit card companies who call me and say we can offer you a visa platnium with as low as 8% interest. Its like uh pay 6.5 now. So your basicly offering me a chance to pay more? What a deal!!!
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PostPosted: 07/24/03 - 17:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

hhah, yatta!


thats funny because my neighbor almost called back once to an 809 #, but someone told him not to return the call
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PostPosted: 07/24/03 - 18:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

so if it's not a US number, then why do you not have to use a different country code?
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PostPosted: 07/24/03 - 18:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snopes owns all

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/scams/809.htm
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PostPosted: 07/25/03 - 13:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the scam is becoming so legendary that it's described 100x worse than it really is.
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PostPosted: 07/25/03 - 19:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

atarom wrote:
so if it's not a US number, then why do you not have to use a different country code?


Because 809 is the country code and the shorter area code combined... not every country sports hundreds of million people like the USA. If you were to call me in new zealand you'd call 644 <seven digit actual phone number> 64 being the country code, 4 being the area code, Although if you were to call me while in new zealand but in a different city you'd have to dial 04 <seven digit actual phone number> ...
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