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Tura
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Nictathan
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Looks decent, has an hour left and the price isn't bad... make sure to get some sort of guarantee... that thing is sitting out on a fabric chair, that my friend says Static all over it
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Tura
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 12:24 Post subject:
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I think thats a plastic cover for a weightbench.
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Tura
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 12:28 Post subject:
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The thing is, how can I tell what the max RAM and processor speed allowance is on it? I'm sorta a newb when it comes to motherboards.
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Nictathan
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 12:29 Post subject:
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paying attention > me
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Manuva
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 12:31 Post subject:
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ugh
www.asus.com usually has good spec info on their own motherboards!
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Tura
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 12:31 Post subject:
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yeah its got 3 slots for DDR SDRAM but that still doesn't tell me how much ram total that I can stick in there. I want 3 sticks of 512 but I wanna make sure it can hold it.
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Nictathan
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 12:33 Post subject:
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3 gig according to the auction page
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Nictathan
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 12:34 Post subject:
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though I'm still trying to figure out when "DDR SDRAM" came out... they're kinda two different things.
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myndwarrp
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 13:56 Post subject:
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from the ASUS site:
CPU Socket A for AMD Athlon XP/Athlon / Duron
Thoroughbred/ Barton Core Support
Chipset VIA KT600
VIA VT8237
FSB 400/333/266/200MHz
Memory 3 x 184-pin DIMM Sockets support max. 3GB unbuffered non-ECC PC3200/PC2700/2100 DDR SDRAM memory
Expansion Slots 1 x AGP 8X
6 x PCI
Storage 2 x UltraDMA 133/100
2 x Serial ATA with RAID 0, 1 function
Audio ADI AD1888 6-channel CODEC
S/PDIF out interface
LAN Integrated 10/100 Mbps LAN controller with external PHY
Special Features ASUS EZ Flash
ASUS C.O.P. (CPU Overheating Protection)
ASUS CrashFree BIOS 2
ASUS Instant Music Lite
Overclock Features - ASUS JumperFree
- ASUS C.P.R.(CPU Parameter Recall)
- CPU voltage adjustable
- SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection) from 100MHz up to 250MHz at 1MHz increment
Back Panel I/O Ports 1 x Parallel1x Serial
1 x PS/2 Keyboard
1 x PS/2 Mouse
1 x Audio I/O4 x USB 2.0
1 x RJ-45 Port
1 x S/PDIF output
Internal I/O Connectors - CPU/Chassis FAN connectors
- 20-pin ATX power connector
- Chassis Intrusion
- GAME/MIDI connector
- CD/AUX audio in
- Front panel audio connector
- 2 x USB 2.0 connector supports additional 4 USB 2.0 ports
- 2 x SATA ports
BIOS Feature 2Mb Flash ROM, ASUS JumperFree, Award BIOS, PnP, DMI2.0, WfM2.0, SM BIOS 2.3, ASUS EZ Flash, ASUS CrashFree BIOS 2, ASUS C.P.R.
Industry Standard PCI 2.2, USB 2.0
Manageability WfM2.0, DMI2.0, WOR, WOL, Chassis Intrusion
Support CD Drivers
ASUS PC Probe
Trend Micro PC-cillin 2002 anti-virus software(OEM version)
ASUS LiveUpdate Utility
The only thing I dont like is it doesnt support dual channel memory. Other than that, its not terrible. Also the 400MhZ front side BUS is kinda slow...
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Paco
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 14:18 Post subject:
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I love my ASUS mobo.
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Overon
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 15:23 Post subject:
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I <3 asus.
actually i dont <3 asus
my abit board was half the price and is just as good
its a pentium board though so i dont know much about the AMD boards
all i know is when my asus board f****d up horribly i RMAd it and sold it on ebay for 40$ more than I bought my abit board and my abit board has been serving me beautifully
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Dor
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Tolanin
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 15:43 Post subject:
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afaik socket A doesnt take any of the athlon 64 chips, you should just tell us what your budget is then we can tell you what to buy ;p.. I think the fastest axp chip made was a 3200, but note that its a lot slower than a a64 3200, which is a socket 754 chip.... currently the best socket out is the 939, but the cheapest proc for that one is gonna be about 350 and the board is gonna run another 120 or so, then for a gig of good ram your lookin at 200.. on a 754 you can get a athlon 64 2800 for prolly 180 and the board for about 100, ram might be a bit less at like 150.. but quality ram prices dont go down that much as the socket goes down... also important to know is dont buy more than 1 gig of ram because its pointless to have more for gaming.
so far as ram goes you need to pick a processor first then we can tell you what ram to get... basically pick the processor first then build the system around that.
The other thing is i would never ever ever buy a MB from ebay, better to have a good warrenty than to risk it, especially on socket A boards since theres a shitload of them floating around that are just plain horrible (and from the main stream manufactures too)
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Tolanin
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 15:45 Post subject:
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| Nictypoo wrote: | | though I'm still trying to figure out when "DDR SDRAM" came out... they're kinda two different things. |
its always been DDR SDRAM, directly before it there was RAMBUS which sucked and SDRAM.
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myndwarrp
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 17:50 Post subject:
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in reply to the comment on a 64 bit AMD chip...dont bother. We are still a year away from making it worth any while whatsoever. First off, there isnt an OS that supports it. Second, there isnt an app that supports it. Thirdly, the white papers at Microsoft from the next OS upgrade for XP shows they are having all kinds of stability issues, as well as that 64 bit OS isnt backwards compatible.
Yeah, the test numbers are impressive. But they're worthless, coz you cant utilize a 64 bit processor yet. Better off looking for one notch below, and a 800 MhZ front side BUS mobo that will also support dual channel memory =)
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Frashii
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 18:09 Post subject:
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I used to love ASUS.
Then I experience the 850e chipset and the A7V600 (2 of them).
never again. worste service evar.
SOYO and PCHIPS is what I run everything on now. ever since I got them, no an ounce of problem with EQ, etc, before that, it was nonstop client crash central.
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myndwarrp
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 18:49 Post subject:
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Wierd Frashii I gots an ASUS now and trio box on the same machine...never crashed. I guess you got a bad one
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Tolanin
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 19:02 Post subject:
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| myndwarrp wrote: | in reply to the comment on a 64 bit AMD chip...dont bother. We are still a year away from making it worth any while whatsoever. First off, there isnt an OS that supports it. Second, there isnt an app that supports it. Thirdly, the white papers at Microsoft from the next OS upgrade for XP shows they are having all kinds of stability issues, as well as that 64 bit OS isnt backwards compatible.
Yeah, the test numbers are impressive. But they're worthless, coz you cant utilize a 64 bit processor yet. Better off looking for one notch below, and a 800 MhZ front side BUS mobo that will also support dual channel memory =) |
what? You do realize that for the price point the 64 bit procs best everything else out on the market, you do realize that they run 32 bit programs really well too, you do realize that only an idiot thinks they arent worth it because people with brains know that the fact that its 64 bit is just icing on the cake since they already preform so well.. AMD could make them 32 bit processors and still justify what they charge for them, so dont think its not worth it because if you bother to look at the benchs from 32 bit games you will realize just how wrong you are.
As far as frashii's comment goes, asus makes decent boards, personally i prefer abit but thats just me.. I would recomend leadtek, asus, abit and msi to anyone who asked had decent results from all 4 of them.
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Meeatsu
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 19:33 Post subject:
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Asus, MSI and DFI are my favs due to awesome overclockablity. Abit, Shuttle, and Gigabyte are alright too.
| Quote: | | We are still a year away from making it worth any while whatsoever. First off, there isnt an OS that supports it. |
Hi, there are 64 bit OS's avialable now. In Linux form and Windows XP 64bit (beta) flavor and Server 2k3 is stable. Even if you don't have a 64bit OS, A64 absolutely blows everything away in 32bit performance, especially in gaming thanks to some of the other technology that are in the CPU cores. Saying its not worth it now is silly.
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Xion
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 19:38 Post subject:
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I'd stick with an n-Force chipset rather than one of the VIA"s, they're much better.
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Kurel
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 20:01 Post subject:
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| myndwarrp wrote: | in reply to the comment on a 64 bit AMD chip...dont bother. We are still a year away from making it worth any while whatsoever. First off, there isnt an OS that supports it. Second, there isnt an app that supports it. Thirdly, the white papers at Microsoft from the next OS upgrade for XP shows they are having all kinds of stability issues, as well as that 64 bit OS isnt backwards compatible.
Yeah, the test numbers are impressive. But they're worthless, coz you cant utilize a 64 bit processor yet. Better off looking for one notch below, and a 800 MhZ front side BUS mobo that will also support dual channel memory =) |
Wow, just wow, you're a moron. Seriously, just shoot yourself in the face now or stop breathing the same air as me.
What makes the AMD 64 so fast? Not the clock speed, not the fact that it's 64 bit, it's the fact that the memory controller (FSB) is built INTO the die of the processor. That's right folks, your FSB on an AMD 64 runs at clock speed. For a 3800, that mean's your FSB and clock speed is 2.4 ghz, compared to a P4's 800 mhz FSB. It removes just 1 more bottleneck in a computer, giving you much better performance. Not to mention it cuts down on the physical distance between the two because it's on the actual die of the processor.
There's some other neat stuff on an AMD 64, but that's the major one that will give you the best performance in games.
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 21:26 Post subject: Re: Any opinions on this mobo?
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| Tura wrote: | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42012&item=6705961717&rd=1#ebayphotohosting
I'm looking to get a new processor and motherboard for my roomates computer so he can run EQ2. So what do you all think about this one? |
It's sitting on a Bowflex.
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atarom
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 21:27 Post subject:
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i think it's just a weight set
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Spitulski
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Posted: 09/10/04 - 21:27 Post subject:
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| myndwarrp wrote: | in reply to the comment on a 64 bit AMD chip...dont bother. We are still a year away from making it worth any while whatsoever. First off, there isnt an OS that supports it. Second, there isnt an app that supports it. Thirdly, the white papers at Microsoft from the next OS upgrade for XP shows they are having all kinds of stability issues, as well as that 64 bit OS isnt backwards compatible.
Yeah, the test numbers are impressive. But they're worthless, coz you cant utilize a 64 bit processor yet. Better off looking for one notch below, and a 800 MhZ front side BUS mobo that will also support dual channel memory =) |
I'd say something, but you've been utterly nerdserved already.
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