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Scrabler
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 Posted: 01/11/05 - 15:33 Post subject:
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| Paco wrote: | | scrotum wrote: | | As previously stated, I have donated a decent amount of money. It's not like me to share how much money though. |
And you're also speaking english. f****t.
Find one person here that can read/write Norge.
You sure do travel far on the net to call someone a redneck. Sad to say, I'm actually claiming Scandanavian bloodlines, but I am. So I guess that makes you a redneck too, doesn't it? |
Sadly the largest/most recent foreign blood I have is french.  Only a small part but it's still terrible.
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Manuva
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 15:47 Post subject:
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| scrotum wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | scrotum wrote: | This wasnt started at all about bragging. I just stated facts about numbers the 3rd day after the tsunami. The us got critisized big time from the UN, then decided to 10x their donation. Its political. I mention norway because we are of the few countries that are even close to the "goal" of rich countries around the world.(to give x % of their GDP to disasters and foreign aid). Stating facts isnt bragging.
And I have yet to see the link Confused promised me. |
Why should we give the same % when our much smaller % is the largest amount of money in given in the world every year? Personally I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't give anyone any money; let the world take care of it's self for a change. |
Have you read the first pages of this topic? It's all about giving a set percent of a country's GDP to foreign aid. All richer Western countries, US included, is willing to try to reach up to the set %. The US, however has failed totally, and is not holding their part of the deal. Yes they are doing great in the tsunami disaster, no, they don't give as much as other rich countries around the world. What's so f*****g hard to understand?
As for your personal opinion, if I hadn't have known, I could've been able to see you were a hick or somewhere from the Southern states. You are so typical. Noone in the world has such s****y attitudes towards other countries/religions/races as you f*****s down there. |
We're more than holding up our end of the bargain. Lets pull all the relief, security and infrastucture our military is providing over there right now and see how well shit goes.
As usual when something like this happens, while the rest of the UN countries are making themselves look good by touting the million dollar checks that pissant countries are writing, the big boys from the United States are the biggest, and often the first, force over there on the ground getting their hands dirty doing what matters; giving direct relief and aid to the people affected by this.
Shove your numbers and your "you're not holding up your end of the bargain" shit back up your ass where shit belongs. When Norway's naval forces has a battle group steaming that way, costing millions of dollars a day to operate and is hard at work pounding out millions of gallons of fresh water (not vans full of bottled water) a day and dispensing food, clothes, medicine and shelters, then you can f*****g talk about us not holding up our end of the deal.
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motherface
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 15:54 Post subject:
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I would hope the European nations would be giving a larger percentage of their GDP in aid since they don't have f*****g militaries to support, thanks to US protection.
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scrotum
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 16:16 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: | | scrotum wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | scrotum wrote: | This wasnt started at all about bragging. I just stated facts about numbers the 3rd day after the tsunami. The us got critisized big time from the UN, then decided to 10x their donation. Its political. I mention norway because we are of the few countries that are even close to the "goal" of rich countries around the world.(to give x % of their GDP to disasters and foreign aid). Stating facts isnt bragging.
And I have yet to see the link Confused promised me. |
Why should we give the same % when our much smaller % is the largest amount of money in given in the world every year? Personally I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't give anyone any money; let the world take care of it's self for a change. |
Have you read the first pages of this topic? It's all about giving a set percent of a country's GDP to foreign aid. All richer Western countries, US included, is willing to try to reach up to the set %. The US, however has failed totally, and is not holding their part of the deal. Yes they are doing great in the tsunami disaster, no, they don't give as much as other rich countries around the world. What's so f*****g hard to understand?
As for your personal opinion, if I hadn't have known, I could've been able to see you were a hick or somewhere from the Southern states. You are so typical. Noone in the world has such s****y attitudes towards other countries/religions/races as you f*****s down there. |
We're more than holding up our end of the bargain. Lets pull all the relief, security and infrastucture our military is providing over there right now and see how well shit goes.
As usual when something like this happens, while the rest of the UN countries are making themselves look good by touting the million dollar checks that pissant countries are writing, the big boys from the United States are the biggest, and often the first, force over there on the ground getting their hands dirty doing what matters; giving direct relief and aid to the people affected by this.
Shove your numbers and your "you're not holding up your end of the bargain" shit back up your ass where shit belongs. When Norway's naval forces has a battle group steaming that way, costing millions of dollars a day to operate and is hard at work pounding out millions of gallons of fresh water (not vans full of bottled water) a day and dispensing food, clothes, medicine and shelters, then you can f*****g talk about us not holding up our end of the deal. |
We've done alot of work down there, despite being a country with a population less than Dallas, TX. We actually do the same things you mention....we just dont happen to need any naval fleet the size of yours. Why? Because Norway has no enemies atm 
This time, the US wasnt at all the first on site getting their hands dirty. Dubya waited 2.5 days to even respond from his vacation. You were last in there, but doing a great job.
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Paco
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 16:26 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Paco wrote: | | scrotum wrote: | | As previously stated, I have donated a decent amount of money. It's not like me to share how much money though. |
And you're also speaking english. f****t.
Find one person here that can read/write Norge.
You sure do travel far on the net to call someone a redneck. Sad to say, I'm actually claiming Scandanavian bloodlines, but I am. So I guess that makes you a redneck too, doesn't it? |
Sadly the largest/most recent foreign blood I have is french. Only a small part but it's still terrible. |
Just don't admit you have french blood. 
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Frehya
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 16:40 Post subject:
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tsk tsk so nationalistic and bigoted. Is this a better way, or is it just where we have come from and were hoping to evolve past? I still have hope that we can do it!
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Scrabler
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 16:44 Post subject:
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| Frehya wrote: | | tsk tsk so nationalistic and bigoted. Is this a better way, or is it just where we have come from and were hoping to evolve past? I still have hope that we can do it! |
When did being nationalistic become a bad thing?
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Frehya
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 16:51 Post subject:
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when it comes packaged with all the other crap that you spew. 
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 16:52 Post subject:
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since red necks adopted this mindset shortly after independance day
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Nuldaan
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 17:39 Post subject:
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| scrotum wrote: | We've done alot of work down there, despite being a country with a population less than Dallas, TX. We actually do the same things you mention....we just dont happen to need any naval fleet the size of yours. Why? Because Norway has no enemies atm
This time, the US wasnt at all the first on site getting their hands dirty. Dubya waited 2.5 days to even respond from his vacation. You were last in there, but doing a great job. |
The bolded section is actually wrong. It's pretty safe to assume that fundamentalist Islam considers you an enemy, even if you do not. Coincidentally, they are also our only active enemy. But hey, don't let the truth stop your argument. It never has before.
As for the rest of this post, the more I think about it, the more I think I would be incredibly p****d off right now if I was a Norwegian.
First, we pay taxes to support our own government, not to allow our government to dole out charity in our names. As others have said, charity is a personal choice. It makes more sense to me to leave the money in the hands of the people and allow them to decide whether or not a charity is worth giving to. Coincidentally, and happily as far as I'm concerned, that's exactly what the US does.
Secondly, if the Norwegian government has this much extra money, why does the tax rate still cap out at a whopping 64.7%(with Employer Social Security contributions included)? That doesn't even count a VAT that caps at 24%. Don't these numbers seem excessive?
http://odin.dep.no/fin/engelsk/p4500279/006041-990650/dok-bn.html
The last thing, and I'm surprised no one else has mentioned it since Scrotum keeps returning to it, is that only 3 countries reached the UN goal in 2003. Only 3...while it's true that the US was the lowest, it's deceiving to imply that the US is the only country to not reach that goal. Of course, I would argue that even creating a goal to work for charitable contributions ceases to make them 'charitable' but the UN, in all of its wisdom, doesn't seem to understand that. 
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Scrabler
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 17:40 Post subject:
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Y'all better hope the rednecks numbers stay strong to save your ass in the future. Liberals don't fight back very well. 
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 18:39 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Y'all better hope the rednecks numbers stay strong to save your ass in the future. Liberals don't fight back very well. |
Such wisdom! And you say you're only 16???
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kbarr
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Location: New York, now go fuck off...
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 19:10 Post subject:
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| scrotum wrote: |
We actually do the same things you mention....we just dont happen to need any naval fleet the size of yours. Why? Because Norway has no enemies atm
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Wow.
How dumb are you?
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Scrabler
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Posted: 01/11/05 - 19:10 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Y'all better hope the rednecks numbers stay strong to save your ass in the future. Liberals don't fight back very well. |
Such wisdom! And you say you're only 16??? |
I'm being somewhat sarcastic, but rednecks really are the major part of our military. 17 btw
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