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Janoth
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 Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:13 Post subject: American politics....
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f**k man. Thats all I can really say. There are no good possibilities.
Bush, imo, is the best choice... And lets not kid ourselves, he aint doin a great job. Is he gonna win? I really don't think so. Iraq is turning into a mess. The one attack a week killing 2 soldiers is acceptable. It has increased to an attack a day with 10 or more casualties a week.... My main concern here is it's getting worse, not better. What is it gonna be like in a month? We are a victim of our own good will.
If only we could go in and brutally stomp down any resistance like Saddam did.... But that would be too "inhumane". Meanwhile the terrorists are bombing Mother Theresa's clinic for the blind. What the f**k =P
Howard Dean is b******t. Wesley Clark is b******t. Joe Lieberman belongs in a baseball stadium being sold for 50 cents with a medium coke. (Yes I am implying he is a god damn hot dog).
Normally this wouldn't matter, but it's an important and pivitol time, and every candidate is a f*****g punk ass b***h. There, I said it. Make Tommy Franks president. Now that guy doesn't look like he puts up with b******t!
Anyway, in closing, please give me a respectable candidate.
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NickPSH
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:20 Post subject:
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Glad I can't vote yet!
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:24 Post subject:
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Think Bush would push up this war if he was the one risky his ass up there?
Those who died are heroes cause they tried to make a country a much better place but lets face it it wont happen cause too many people in Iraq dont want peace.
How many American soldiers will have to die before Bush stop it? 100 more? 1000?
With all the money already wasted for this war Bush could have helped every single poor person in the US so how the f**k should the poor ones feel right now? Their country is spending more then it can spend money on a stupid war trying to help people that just wont stop killing those that come to help..while those US citizen get nada not even a single ray of hope to make their life better.
makes me simply sick, Bush is a real f*****g moron.
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Janoth
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:33 Post subject:
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I agree 100% with the Iraq war. We just weren't smart going about it. The problems we are facing now is a result of Al Queda and other terrorist groups taking advantage of the uncertanty the remnants of Saddam's bumfuck loyalists caused.
The people attacking us now aren't even Iraqi's. 90% of Iraqi's are glad we did what we did. the other 9 or so percent don't like it but are dealing with it. there is .1 percent (About 500 to 1000) Iraqi's actually trying shit... Thats an insignificant number. The problems we are seeing now are the BumFuck Allah Habibi's coming in and causing shit. This could have been prevented completly with better planning. We are in, and we need to stay in until the job is done. If 1000 more troops die, so be it. If 2000, so be it. Thats easy as hell for me to say at home, but if I am drafted, I will go in a heartbeat.
The fact is Bush was right in going into Iraq, and he's right in staying there until Iraq can cover it's own ass and behave itself. There was obviously serious mis calculation on how this was going to play out, though.
In closing, at least Hillary Clinton isn't going to be president. That is all.
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Docter
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:35 Post subject:
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More peeps are dying in LA daily from gunshots, then our troops over in Iraq....where's the outcry for LA??? 
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:36 Post subject:
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I agree that leaving now would be like leaving every people in Iraq in a mess that they will prob never recover from
But dont forget that this war is costing the US so much money that you guys could have helped every single poor person in your country.
But its okay you guys spend so much that in a few weeks our canadian $$$ will be at .85 of an American one!
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Paden
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:37 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | Think Bush would push up this war if he was the one risky his ass up there?
Those who died are heroes cause they tried to make a country a much better place but lets face it it wont happen cause too many people in Iraq dont want peace.
How many American soldiers will have to die before Bush stop it? 100 more? 1000?
With all the money already wasted for this war Bush could have helped every single poor person in the US so how the f**k should the poor ones feel right now? Their country is spending more then it can spend money on a stupid war trying to help people that just wont stop killing those that come to help..while those US citizen get nada not even a single ray of hope to make their life better.
makes me simply sick, Bush is a real f*****g moron. |
In this day and age not many people die in the wars (atleast not from the US view)
Vietnam 70,000 died
Civil War around 400,000 died
If you look at the death rate now and in the past. This war is going smooth.
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Janoth
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:39 Post subject:
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| Docter wrote: | | More peeps are dying in LA daily from gunshots, then our troops over in Iraq....where's the outcry for LA??? |
That is changing rapidly. More Habibi Aeyatola Dumbfuckerballs are moving in and causing more shit daily. At this rate, there will be attacks every day causing a lot more problems than we are seeing now.
Not a valid analogy. Especially since there are 150,000 troops in Iraq and 10,000,000 or so people in LA. Like I said. Casualties are to be expected. When you start losing multiple people a day and the attacks are increasing, it's cause for concern.
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Haphasto
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:43 Post subject:
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Personally, as long as i'm not effected deeply I could care less who is president. People in poltics know alot more about what's going on around the world and how to handle it than probably 95% of Americans. I hate these anarchist who say they are against the government and George when they really have no reasonable explination why, or just do not know the full ordeal of whats going down. Basically if your going to be an anarchist, and critisize our government, atleast know what your talking about, or move to another country and see how much better you like the government there.
I can see if your relative died in war due to Bush's war on Iraq...that is suspost to be over...and you have some strong feeling against him...but otherwise keep it shut.
this message has been brought to you by Haphasto Sardukar, it was in no way intended to point at, or offend anyone on the Real Poor forum....just the d**k head goths at my school.
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:48 Post subject:
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Easy to use the word smooth when you are sitting at home jerking off like the fat ass you are.
How about you do something nice and go help them out a bit? I will be more then happy to count the numbers of days before you cry to your superior about getting back home.
In fact I wouldnt be surprise dif your mom would make a TV show called : Save my young fat ass!
How about your go tell every single soldier that died's family : Hey the war is going smooth! Go say that to every wife/child that lost their husband/dad
Hope God punish you with another 100lbs.
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Janoth
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:48 Post subject:
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Yeah. 400,000 German civilians died in one allied bombing raid during WW2. When you think about it, thats is a f*****g massive number. At the same time, in the past, entire populations were mobilized and there were 3,000,000 people fighting 3,000,000 more people.
All i'm saying is it always starts small. Like I said. You can expect casualties, but where do you draw the line? I am concerned about the current trend. you lose 2 people a week, it's no big deal.
Then 2 weeks later you're up to 5 a week.
A month later you are losing 10 a week.
More and more enemies are coming into Iraq... It stands to reason this trend is only going to keep on going until we do something about it. The problem is there are tens of thousands of these brainwashed f***s willing to go and blow themselves up in the name of killing "the great satan" and since we are the good guys there is no way to filter them out until they are pointing their ghetto RPG at you. On the bright side, at least we are killing them here and now. We were eventually going to have to anyway.
As for the money, fuckit. Most poor Americans are gonna stay that way no matter how much the government helps them. If we would have done shit differently and a little bit smarter, I don't think we would be paying 67 billion dollars now.
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Clevinger
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:54 Post subject:
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maelstrom speaketh the jive
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rosie
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:55 Post subject:
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| Tizitchy Tinkergnome wrote: | | Glad I can't vote yet! |
Your one vote won't make a difference, anyway.
Come to think of it, neither will mine.
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Paden
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:55 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | Easy to use the word smooth when you are sitting at home jerking off like the fat ass you are.
How about you do something nice and go help them out a bit? I will be more then happy to count the numbers of days before you cry to your superior about getting back home.
In fact I wouldnt be surprise dif your mom would make a TV show called : Save my young fat ass!
How about your go tell every single soldier that died's family : Hey the war is going smooth! Go say that to every wife/child that lost their husband/dad
Hope God punish you with another 100lbs. |
Stop being such a bleeding heart liberal p***y you dumb f**k. Its a f*****g war PEOPLE DIE! Those Suns Husbands and Dads know what the hell they are getting into. I live in a town that is almost all military family's. Half my friends dads are in the Army and they will tell you right now the war is going smooth so far.
Why don't stick to your own country's problems Canada ain't perfect!
WTG on being mature and bringing looks into the convo.
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 10/27/03 - 23:58 Post subject:
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| Paden wrote: | | Maelstrom wrote: | Easy to use the word smooth when you are sitting at home jerking off like the fat ass you are.
How about you do something nice and go help them out a bit? I will be more then happy to count the numbers of days before you cry to your superior about getting back home.
In fact I wouldnt be surprise dif your mom would make a TV show called : Save my young fat ass!
How about your go tell every single soldier that died's family : Hey the war is going smooth! Go say that to every wife/child that lost their husband/dad
Hope God punish you with another 100lbs. |
Stop being such a bleeding heart liberal p***y you dumb f**k. Its a f*****g war PEOPLE DIE! Those Suns Husbands and Dads know what the hell they are getting into. I live in a town that is almost all military family's. Half my friends dads are in the Army and they will tell you right now the war is going smooth so far.
Why don't stick to your own country's problems Canada ain't perfect!
WTG on being mature and bringing looks into the convo. |
Wrong you live in a town full of racist POS like you and you are the village's p***y.
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Paden
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 00:01 Post subject:
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God you are such a f*****g idiot. It hurts my f*****g brain just to see you try ans "flame" someone. Why don't you take your liberal ass to some other board were they all like to hug and talk about Oprah.
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Akronn
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 00:05 Post subject:
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Among other difficulties, Bush doesn't stand a chance at reelection if we don't get the casualties in Iraq down to nothing by next fall. All it would take is another day of car-bombings like today right before the election to torpedo his chances. 30 more dead??? Pfft, take that one to the polls. Seriously.
And now the attacks are being attributed to 'foreign freedom fighters,' not Hussein loyalists. Perfect, we've just given terrorists a much more convenient theater to attack us in. They don't even need to hop on planes anymore! I really have to stop and wonder if this scenario even crossed our administration's collective mind. Did we really think the entire region would welcome us with open arms??? Invading Iraq whilst trying to combat terrorism even though it was proven Iraq had nothing to do with the recent terrorism... well I'm sorry, I don't see the logic behind it.
Our troops are demoralized, they aren't re-upping in sufficient quantities, we're spreading reserves out too thin and they've been deployed far too long already with no sign of coming home. All part of Rumsfeld's 'mixed results' I guess, proof we didn't know what we were getting into and there may be no easy way out.
Thus far I'm not blown away by any of the Democratic choices either, but I won't dismiss them simply as 'b******t' and move on. I'll see what they have to say, right now they're just bickering amongst themselves, jockeying for money, as politicians do. It's all a bit too catty at the moment.
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 00:07 Post subject:
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| Paden wrote: | | God you are such a f*****g idiot. It hurts my f*****g brain just to see you try ans "flame" someone. Why don't you take your liberal ass to some other board were they all like to hug and talk about Oprah. |
How about we change the word liberal to fat and that I send you back the same message?
You are like that stupid kind that always try to get into a group but never realise that no one wants to be his friends...
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khrath
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 00:09 Post subject:
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hot dogs cost way more than 50 cents in a stadium.
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Paden
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 00:14 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | | Paden wrote: | | God you are such a f*****g idiot. It hurts my f*****g brain just to see you try ans "flame" someone. Why don't you take your liberal ass to some other board were they all like to hug and talk about Oprah. |
How about we change the word liberal to fat and that I send you back the same message?
You are like that stupid kind that always try to get into a group but never realise that no one wants to be his friends... |
What the hell?
I don't have to try I have a close circle of friends that has been going on since grade school. Maybe you are trying to reflect on the childhood that you had growing up. I bet it was hard! Let see what you look like Mr. Mealy!
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Janoth
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 00:14 Post subject:
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I can say that I 100% do not trust Howard Dean. I woud not trust him in the car with my blind grandmother while I ran into a gas station to buy milk. That guy is a f*****g used car salesman(Second referance in this thread!).
The only democrat I would vote for is Clark, and judging by what his colleages have said about him, he is a piece of shit too. As for Bush, there is no question he has used his power for personal gain. SO SHOCKED. That is pretty much a norm for politicians. They aren't in it because they actually believe in something. It still p****s me off though, and while I am not nearly as pessemistic as Akronn, Bush has f****d some shit up. He has some time to fix it. I hope he proves me wrong.
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khrath
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 00:23 Post subject:
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I want my son to be able to go to college.
I dont care if people who make more than me get better health care than I do, but for free.
I have alot of friends in the military who went into it to start a career, not to get laid off from a job that pays so little that they're forced to live off of welfare to be able to feed their families.
Please dont vote democrat.
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 00:24 Post subject:
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| Paden wrote: | | Maelstrom wrote: | | Paden wrote: | | God you are such a f*****g idiot. It hurts my f*****g brain just to see you try ans "flame" someone. Why don't you take your liberal ass to some other board were they all like to hug and talk about Oprah. |
How about we change the word liberal to fat and that I send you back the same message?
You are like that stupid kind that always try to get into a group but never realise that no one wants to be his friends... |
What the hell?
I don't have to try I have a close circle of friends that has been going on since grade school. Maybe you are trying to reflect on the childhood that you had growing up. I bet it was hard! Let see what you look like Mr. Mealy! |
No I give up no way that I can compare myself to such a **** symbol as you.
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Haphasto
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 00:25 Post subject:
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Oh yeah...this arguement is going to bring us into extra pages ladies and gentlemen
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Paden
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 00:29 Post subject:
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| Khrath wrote: | I want my son to be able to go to college.
I dont care if people who make more than me get better health care than I do, but for free.
I have alot of friends in the military who went into it to start a career, not to get laid off from a job that pays so little that they're forced to live off of welfare to be able to feed their families.
Please dont vote democrat. |
Khrath i'm a registerd Republican!
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Paden
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 00:29 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: | | Paden wrote: | | Maelstrom wrote: | | Paden wrote: | | God you are such a f*****g idiot. It hurts my f*****g brain just to see you try ans "flame" someone. Why don't you take your liberal ass to some other board were they all like to hug and talk about Oprah. |
How about we change the word liberal to fat and that I send you back the same message?
You are like that stupid kind that always try to get into a group but never realise that no one wants to be his friends... |
What the hell?
I don't have to try I have a close circle of friends that has been going on since grade school. Maybe you are trying to reflect on the childhood that you had growing up. I bet it was hard! Let see what you look like Mr. Mealy! |
No I give up no way that I can compare myself to such a **** symbol as you. |
You damn f*****g RIGHT!
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Kaladam
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 01:47 Post subject:
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| Maelstrom wrote: |
With all the money already wasted for this war Bush could have helped every single poor person in the US so how the f**k should the poor ones feel right now? Their country is spending more then it can spend money on a stupid war trying to help people that just wont stop killing those that come to help..while those US citizen get nada not even a single ray of hope to make their life better.
makes me simply sick, Bush is a real f*****g moron. |
I dont want my money going to poor people.
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Where are the Ross Perots and the Arnolds?!?!
I'd like to see a new, brighter, option that comes from the middle who gives a big ol f**k you to the party system. I haven't fought for a true underdog in a long time.
And I don't mean the green party, way to left for mainstream.
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Janoth
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 02:34 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | Where are the Ross Perots and the Arnolds?!?!
I'd like to see a new, brighter, option that comes from the middle who gives a big ol f**k you to the party system. I haven't fought for a true underdog in a long time.
And I don't mean the green party, way to left for mainstream. |
Couldn't agree more.
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Posted: 10/28/03 - 02:39 Post subject:
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What a shame that G Gordon is a felon.
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