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principessa
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 Posted: 05/12/04 - 08:22 Post subject: A Texas Soldier's Letter to Kerry
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I got this in an email today. No clue if it is true--has anyone else gotten it? It came with the instruction to forward it to everyone I know. I'm not likely to do that :p
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Dear Senator Kerry:
Since it has become clear that you will probably be the
Democratic nominee for President,
I have spent a great deal of time researching your war record
and your record as a professional politician. The reason is simple,
you aspire to be the Commander in Chief who would lead my sons
and their fellow soldiers in time of war. I simply wanted to know if you
possess the necessary qualifications to be trusted in that respect.
You see, I belong to a family of proud U.S. veterans.
I was a Captain in the Army Reserve,
my father was a decorated Lieutenant in World War II;
and I have four sons who have either served,
or are currently serving in the military.
The oldest is an Army Lieutenant still on active duty in Afghanistan
after already being honored for his service in Iraq.
The youngest is an E-4 with the military police.
His National Guard unit just finished their second tour of active duty,
including six months in Guantanamo Bay.
My two other sons have served in the national guard and the navy.
In looking at your record I found myself comparing it not only to that of
my father and my sons, but to the people they served with.
My father served with the 87th Chemical Mortar Battalion in Europe.
They landed on Utah Beach and fought for 317 straight days
including the Cherbourg Peninsula, Aachen, the Hurtgen Forest,
and the Battle of the Bulge.
You earned a Silver Star in Vietnam for chasing down and finishing
off a wounded and retreating enemy soldier.
My father won a Bronze Star for single handedly charging
and knocking out a German machine gun nest that had his men pinned down.
You received three purple hearts for what appears to be three minor scratches.
In fact you only missed a combined total of two days of duty for these wounds.
The men of my father's unit, the 87th, had to be admonished
by their commanding officer because: "It has been brought to our attention
that some men are covering up wounds and refusing
medical attention for fear of being evacuated and permanently separated
from this organization..."
It was also a common problem for seriously wounded soldiers to go AWOL
from hospitals in order to rejoin their units.
You used your three purple hearts to leave Vietnam early.
My oldest boy came home from Iraq with numerous commendations
and then proceeded to volunteer to go to Afghanistan and from there back
to Iraq again. My sons and father have never had anything but the highest regard
and respect for their fellow soldiers.
Yet, you came home to publicly charge your fellow fighting men
with being war criminals and to urge their defeat by the enemy.
You even wrote a book that had a cover which mocked
the heroism of the U.S. Marines who raised the flag on Iwo Jima.
Our current crop of soldiers has a philosophy that no one gets left behind;
and they have practiced that from Somalia to the battlefields of
the Middle East.
Yet as chairman of a Senate committee looking into allegations that
many of your fellow servicemen had been left behind as prisoners in Vietnam,
you chose to defend the brutal Vietnamese regime.
You even went so far as to refer to the families of the POWs and MIAs as
Professional malcontents, conspiracy mongers, con artists,
and dime-store Rambos.
As a Senator you voted against the 1991 Gulf War,
and have repeatedly voted against funds to supply our troops
with the best equipment, and against money to improve
our intelligence capability.
I find this particularly ironic since as a Presidential candidate
you are highly critical of our pre-war intelligence in Iraq.
However, you did vote to authorize the President to go to war,
but have since proceeded to do everything you can to undermine the efforts
of our government and our troops to win.
Is this what our fighting men and women can expect of you
if you are their Commander in Chief?
Will you gladly send them to war, only to then aid the
enemy by undermining the morale of our troops and cutting off
the weapons they need to win?
Our country is at war Senator, and as has been
the case in every war since the American Revolution,
a member of my family is serving their country during the war.
Now you want me to trust you to lead my sons in this fight.
Sorry Senator, but when I compare your record to those who have
fought and died for this nation, and are currently fighting and dying,
the answer is not just no, but Hell No!
Sincerely,
Michael Connelly
February 14, 2004.... Dallas, Texas
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Haroun Zehra
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 10:03 Post subject:
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RESUME
GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20520
EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:
Law Enforcement:
I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the
influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's
license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.
Military:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take
a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.
College:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a
cheerleader.
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil
business in Midland,Texas, in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS
I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies,
making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.
I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions
in borrowed money. I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history. With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal
record.
I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week. I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history. I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.
I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by a U.S. President.
I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.
My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron.
My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.
I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.
I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.
I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any President in U.S. history.
I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the
history of the United States government.
I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S.
history.
I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
I refused to allow inspector's access to U.S. "prisoners of war" detainees
and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President
since the advent of television.
I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year
period.
After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst
security failure in U.S. history.
I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center
attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated
country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.
I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.
I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community.
I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families -- in wartime.
In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.
I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.
I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD.
I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden [sic] to justice.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view.
All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004.
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Paco
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Location: Jacksonville, FL
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| Haroun Zehra wrote: | RESUME
GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20520
EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:
Law Enforcement:
I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the
influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's
license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.
Military:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take
a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.
College:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a
cheerleader.
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil
business in Midland,Texas, in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS
I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies,
making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.
I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions
in borrowed money. I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history. With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal
record.
I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week. I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history. I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.
I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by a U.S. President.
I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.
My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron.
My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.
I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.
I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.
I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any President in U.S. history.
I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the
history of the United States government.
I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S.
history.
I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
I refused to allow inspector's access to U.S. "prisoners of war" detainees
and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President
since the advent of television.
I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year
period.
After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst
security failure in U.S. history.
I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center
attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated
country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.
I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.
I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community.
I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families -- in wartime.
In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.
I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.
I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD.
I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden [sic] to justice.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view.
All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004. |
f**k off d**k, you can't even vote, so butt the f**k out
and nice try to derail the thread, but bush is already in office..while kerry isn't..but i guess you just don't get it, and feel the need to slam bush wherever you can, regardless if it fits the thread
you're such a tool
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Paden
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Location: North CAROLINA!
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 10:37 Post subject:
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| Paco wrote: | | Haroun Zehra wrote: | RESUME
GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20520
EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:
Law Enforcement:
I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the
influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's
license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.
Military:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take
a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.
College:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a
cheerleader.
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil
business in Midland,Texas, in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS
I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies,
making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.
I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions
in borrowed money. I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history. With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal
record.
I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week. I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history. I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.
I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by a U.S. President.
I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.
My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron.
My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.
I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.
I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.
I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any President in U.S. history.
I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the
history of the United States government.
I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S.
history.
I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
I refused to allow inspector's access to U.S. "prisoners of war" detainees
and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President
since the advent of television.
I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year
period.
After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst
security failure in U.S. history.
I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center
attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated
country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.
I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.
I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community.
I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families -- in wartime.
In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.
I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.
I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD.
I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden [sic] to justice.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view.
All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004. |
f**k off d**k, you can't even vote, so butt the f**k out
and nice try to derail the thread, but bush is already in office..while kerry isn't..but i guess you just don't get it, and feel the need to slam bush wherever you can, regardless if it fits the thread
you're such a tool |
not only is he a tool but he reposted this shit
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kemble
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 10:38 Post subject:
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| Haroun Zehra wrote: | | Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. |
Everytime you post I get closer to driving across the border and kicking your sorry ass.
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Haroun Zehra
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 10:48 Post subject:
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| kemble wrote: | | Everytime you post I get closer to driving across the border and kicking your sorry ass. |
Bring it, tough guy. Windsor, Ontario. Right on the border, will make it very easy for you.
| Paco wrote: | | and nice try to derail the thread, but bush is already in office..while kerry isn't..but i guess you just don't get it, and feel the need to slam bush wherever you can, regardless if it fits the thread |
The reason I posted the "resume" following the "letter" is to show you how easy it is to 1) post "facts" that aren't actually factual in a format that makes it all look believable, and 2) show you how that always seems to p**s you off.
The letter is emotional BS. The "facts" it asserts are hardly accurate. The "resume" is just as blatantly manipulative.
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Frax
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I love how foreigners love to pick apart the USA when it suits them, but boy when they need help, who do they turn to?
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 11:58 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | I love how foreigners love to pick apart the USA when it suits them, but boy when they need help, who do they turn to? |
Canada?
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Nahualli
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 12:00 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | I love how foreigners love to pick apart the USA when it suits them, but boy when they need help, who do they turn to? |
He happens to have a point, both the letter and the resume are propogandist b******t and dripping with spin. I don't see him picking anything about the USA in this post.
-Nah-
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 12:00 Post subject:
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| Haroun Zehra wrote: | | kemble wrote: | | Everytime you post I get closer to driving across the border and kicking your sorry ass. |
Bring it, tough guy. Windsor, Ontario. Right on the border, will make it very easy for you.
| Paco wrote: | | and nice try to derail the thread, but bush is already in office..while kerry isn't..but i guess you just don't get it, and feel the need to slam bush wherever you can, regardless if it fits the thread |
The reason I posted the "resume" following the "letter" is to show you how easy it is to 1) post "facts" that aren't actually factual in a format that makes it all look believable, and 2) show you how that always seems to p**s you off.
The letter is emotional BS. The "facts" it asserts are hardly accurate. The "resume" is just as blatantly manipulative. |
You little c**t. Come to NY and we will see how "easy" you will make it.
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Nahualli
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Haroun Zehra wrote: | | kemble wrote: | | Everytime you post I get closer to driving across the border and kicking your sorry ass. |
Bring it, tough guy. Windsor, Ontario. Right on the border, will make it very easy for you.
| Paco wrote: | | and nice try to derail the thread, but bush is already in office..while kerry isn't..but i guess you just don't get it, and feel the need to slam bush wherever you can, regardless if it fits the thread |
The reason I posted the "resume" following the "letter" is to show you how easy it is to 1) post "facts" that aren't actually factual in a format that makes it all look believable, and 2) show you how that always seems to p**s you off.
The letter is emotional BS. The "facts" it asserts are hardly accurate. The "resume" is just as blatantly manipulative. |
You little c**t. Come to NY and we will see how "easy" you will make it. |
What's up with the RL threats kbarr? Are you losing your gourd?
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 12:05 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Haroun Zehra wrote: | | kemble wrote: | | Everytime you post I get closer to driving across the border and kicking your sorry ass. |
Bring it, tough guy. Windsor, Ontario. Right on the border, will make it very easy for you.
| Paco wrote: | | and nice try to derail the thread, but bush is already in office..while kerry isn't..but i guess you just don't get it, and feel the need to slam bush wherever you can, regardless if it fits the thread |
The reason I posted the "resume" following the "letter" is to show you how easy it is to 1) post "facts" that aren't actually factual in a format that makes it all look believable, and 2) show you how that always seems to p**s you off.
The letter is emotional BS. The "facts" it asserts are hardly accurate. The "resume" is just as blatantly manipulative. |
You little c**t. Come to NY and we will see how "easy" you will make it. |
How about best two out of three? Round 1 in Ontario. Round 2 in NY. Round 3 in some neutral ground.. like Mexico!
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 12:25 Post subject:
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| Nahualli wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Haroun Zehra wrote: | | kemble wrote: | | Everytime you post I get closer to driving across the border and kicking your sorry ass. |
Bring it, tough guy. Windsor, Ontario. Right on the border, will make it very easy for you.
| Paco wrote: | | and nice try to derail the thread, but bush is already in office..while kerry isn't..but i guess you just don't get it, and feel the need to slam bush wherever you can, regardless if it fits the thread |
The reason I posted the "resume" following the "letter" is to show you how easy it is to 1) post "facts" that aren't actually factual in a format that makes it all look believable, and 2) show you how that always seems to p**s you off.
The letter is emotional BS. The "facts" it asserts are hardly accurate. The "resume" is just as blatantly manipulative. |
You little c**t. Come to NY and we will see how "easy" you will make it. |
What's up with the RL threats kbarr? Are you losing your gourd?
-Nah- |
I don't see them as "threats" I see them as invitations to pain. If these c***s want to see the sights in NY and get a free attitude adjustment, fine, I'm their huckleberry. I might even buy them a beer, after I mess them up of course. Besides, I lost my "gord" years ago.
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principessa
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 15:07 Post subject:
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I posted that letter cause I received it as email...and was wondering if any of the information in it is true 
I could give a rat's ass bout either of those a******s, tho....and Kbarr, I HATE THAT WORD! 
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-Reneloth-
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 15:18 Post subject:
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it is based on truth like all things. Kerry barely looked into the missing PoW's and declared that we had all of our men back that were still alive despite evidence to the contrary.
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lauren000
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 15:28 Post subject:
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| principessa wrote: | I posted that letter cause I received it as email...and was wondering if any of the information in it is true
I could give a rat's ass bout either of those a******s, tho....and Kbarr, I HATE THAT WORD! |
The letter is blatantly biased. I've read this information previously from a vietnam war veteran site doctor showed me. Basically the claims are based on broad assumptions that can't really be confirmed or denied. Some people claim that Kerry did this or Kerry did that and they think it's utter truth because, "Ha, prove us wrong scumbag." No one can truely confirm nor deny any of the claims, just like no one can really confirm nor deny that Bush was awol or that Bush had corrupt corporate ties. It's b******t spin based on incomplete 40 year old records. You tend to get a lot of b******t myths and spin during election year from both sides and it is up to you to decide if it is really probable. Domestically the USA is much worse off than it was before Bush took office. Even if you ignore 9/11 and Iraq, this country has suffered more damage at the hands of Bush's presidency than from terrorists.
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Paco
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 15:41 Post subject:
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| lauren000 wrote: | | principessa wrote: | I posted that letter cause I received it as email...and was wondering if any of the information in it is true
I could give a rat's ass bout either of those a******s, tho....and Kbarr, I HATE THAT WORD! |
The letter is blatantly biased. I've read this information previously from a vietnam war veteran site doctor showed me. Basically the claims are based on broad assumptions that can't really be confirmed or denied. Some people claim that Kerry did this or Kerry did that and they think it's utter truth because, "Ha, prove us wrong scumbag." No one can truely confirm nor deny any of the claims, just like no one can really confirm nor deny that Bush was awol or that Bush had corrupt corporate ties. It's b******t spin based on incomplete 40 year old records. You tend to get a lot of b******t myths and spin during election year from both sides and it is up to you to decide if it is really probable. Domestically the USA is much worse off than it was before Bush took office. Even if you ignore 9/11 and Iraq, this country has suffered more damage at the hands of Bush's presidency than from terrorists. |
97% of your "facts" that are in your posts are b******t and have been proven as such, so coming from you, this means nothing.
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Aeain
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 16:12 Post subject:
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[quote="lauren000The letter is blatantly biased. I've read this information previously from a vietnam war veteran site doctor showed me. Basically the claims are based on broad assumptions that can't really be confirmed or denied. Some people claim that Kerry did this or Kerry did that and they think it's utter truth because, "Ha, prove us wrong scumbag." No one can truely confirm nor deny any of the claims, just like no one can really confirm nor deny that Bush was awol or that Bush had corrupt corporate ties. It's b******t spin based on incomplete 40 year old records. You tend to get a lot of b******t myths and spin during election year from both sides and it is up to you to decide if it is really probable. Domestically the USA is much worse off than it was before Bush took office. Even if you ignore 9/11 and Iraq, this country has suffered more damage at the hands of Bush's presidency than from terrorists.[/quote]
Most of the letter makes sense to me. Kerry did surprisingly little time in Vietnam (my uncle spent 18 months on the U.S.S. Maddox in the Gulf Of Tonkin). Kerry had 3 Purple hearts(great uncle in the Army serving in the Pacific during WW2 had one) and a Bronze (or silver) star. He came back and said that other soldiers were war criminals. Kerry came back and threw away others medals while he threw away his ribbons.
Oh wow Bush took out Iraq and Saddam Hussein, whoa lets see over 300,000 Iraqis killed by Saddam, evidence during and after the first Gulf War of Chemical and Biological weapons(up untill 1997 UN Weapons inspectors had found the actual weapons), obvious hatred for the U.S. and breaking of numerous U.N. Resolutions. The next logical step after Afgahnastan was Iraq. This man was on the level of Hitler. It would have been but a matter of time till Iraq would have either invaded Kuwait/Saudi Arabia or launched Modified SCUD missiles filled with Chemical or Biological weapons at Israel.
Where has Iraqs WMD gone? Easy they were all stashed in Syria/Jordan and now that they have been, Al Qaeda now has access and most likely at this very moment they are planning to attack the U.S. with these weapons.
How can one ignore 9/11 the cause for so much of the United States problems have been caused by this. And one can argue that a War Time Economy is the best(FDR leading up to WW2), one could also argue that we were heading towards a depression with Reagan, We had all the signs of a depression like just before the 1930s. Inflation was down, Stock Market was up, and the Oil/Steel/Coal markets were down. The same signs. Blaming one person for the number of jobs lost or the crappy economy is just stupid. If you want to blame people blame Reagan, Bush Sr, and Clinton.
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lauren000
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 16:25 Post subject:
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WOW so you mean Kerry got hit by shrapnel on 3 sepparate occassions? That is amazing, I have never heard of that happening before!
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Nuldaan
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 16:32 Post subject:
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| lauren000 wrote: | | principessa wrote: | I posted that letter cause I received it as email...and was wondering if any of the information in it is true
I could give a rat's ass bout either of those a******s, tho....and Kbarr, I HATE THAT WORD! |
The letter is blatantly biased. I've read this information previously from a vietnam war veteran site doctor showed me. Basically the claims are based on broad assumptions that can't really be confirmed or denied. Some people claim that Kerry did this or Kerry did that and they think it's utter truth because, "Ha, prove us wrong scumbag." No one can truely confirm nor deny any of the claims, just like no one can really confirm nor deny that Bush was awol or that Bush had corrupt corporate ties. It's b******t spin based on incomplete 40 year old records. You tend to get a lot of b******t myths and spin during election year from both sides and it is up to you to decide if it is really probable. Domestically the USA is much worse off than it was before Bush took office. Even if you ignore 9/11 and Iraq, this country has suffered more damage at the hands of Bush's presidency than from terrorists. |
Of course the letter is biased. I don't think anyone claimed otherwise. All the facts included about Kerry are true. They aren't broad assumptions. Read them.
3 purple hearts for 2 days of missed duty. Proven by Kerry's own record.
Kerry used his medals to leave Vietnam early. By all accounts, a rarity. Soldiers rarely left Vietnam unless they were med-evaced or dead. Proven by countless reports from soldiers and military records.
Kerry protested Vietnam upon his return to the U.S. Proven although hardly incriminating. Many soldiers protested Vietnam.
Kerry voted to support the war in Iraq. Proven by Congressional records.
Kerry consistently voted against increased spending for the U.S. military and intelligence agencies. Proven, again by Congressional records.
Kerry is now very anti-war again. Proven, although should go without question since this is the basis of his campaign.
Those are all facts. Where is the broad assumption? Yes, it's propoganda and spin but it's based on facts. Haroun's letter is the same way. It's based on facts. In both cases, the facts are presented in such a way as to be intentionally misleading and incriminating.
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Yabden
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 17:30 Post subject:
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I wish this election would end so I don't hear this 50 times a week.
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gotissues68
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 17:43 Post subject:
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| Yabden wrote: | | I wish this election would end so I don't hear this 50 times a week. |
I'm so tired of this shit too 
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Haroun Zehra
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 18:01 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | I don't see them as "threats" I see them as invitations to pain. |
The hair, moustache and stylish eyewear would indeed cause me pain and suffering as I flashed-back to 1979...
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Goraz
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 18:12 Post subject:
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| Haroun Zehra wrote: | RESUME
GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20520
EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:
Law Enforcement:
I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the
influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's
license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.
Military:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take
a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.
College:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a
cheerleader.
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil
business in Midland,Texas, in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS
I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies,
making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.
I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions
in borrowed money. I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history. With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal
record.
I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week. I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history. I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.
I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by a U.S. President.
I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.
My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron.
My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.
I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.
I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.
I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any President in U.S. history.
I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the
history of the United States government.
I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S.
history.
I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
I refused to allow inspector's access to U.S. "prisoners of war" detainees
and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President
since the advent of television.
I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year
period.
After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst
security failure in U.S. history.
I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center
attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated
country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.
I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.
I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community.
I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families -- in wartime.
In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.
I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.
I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD.
I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden [sic] to justice.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view.
All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004. |
Nice attempt to distract the idiots. Too bad it failed. Even paden saw past this.
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 18:22 Post subject:
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| Haroun Zehra wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | I don't see them as "threats" I see them as invitations to pain. |
The hair, moustache and stylish eyewear would indeed cause me pain and suffering as I flashed-back to 1979... |
How can you focus on anything beyond that giant brown nose of yours?
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 18:23 Post subject:
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| principessa wrote: | | ....and Kbarr, I HATE THAT WORD! |
LOL
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Rasil_Sabishi
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 18:33 Post subject:
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/view/
Yes, yay bush! Praise Jesus! Maybe one our new spiritual leader is re-elected we can finally eradicate indecency in this country and reform all to the glorious path of our christian gods. Amen.
Seriously, f**k him in the eye. I don't care if Jake the Snake Robberts was running against bush, I'd vote for him any day of the f*****g week, just as long as he kept the bible OUT OF MY HOUSE.
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Luturb
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 18:35 Post subject:
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It's propaganda, both articles. You take a few facts, blow them out of proportion, and word them carefully so they make the person sound as bad as possible, ignoring their context and any explanation for what happened. Isn't election year great?
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Luturb
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Posted: 05/12/04 - 18:36 Post subject:
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double post
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