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Megalo
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 Posted: 10/16/04 - 13:09 Post subject: 7 more American soldiers died today due to lies
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But hey, they weren't any of *YOUR* brothers or sisters or cousins or mothers or fathers, so who gives a f**k right?
Who cares who dies right? Bush family is gonna make their money. All that matters.
Gotta kill a few soldiers to make a money omelette!
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Megalo
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 13:11 Post subject:
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And even if I thought Vekky had ball one to actually go do something about the opinions he holds so dear, I wouldn't want him over there dying either.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 13:18 Post subject:
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| Megalo wrote: | | And even if I thought Vekky had ball one to actually go do something about the opinions he holds so dear, I wouldn't want him over there dying either. |
I'll be doing something about my opinions..maybe you'll get lucky and I'll get hit. 
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Obmar
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 13:21 Post subject:
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aww no that's not true
i may totally disagree with you on who should be president, but i sure don't want anyone going and getting dead just to prove my point ...
no sir
i respect the troops and support them 1000000%
i respect the presidency as well 100000%
i dont respect george bush, the man.
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Teutates
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 14:09 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | aww no that's not true
i may totally disagree with you on who should be president, but i sure don't want anyone going and getting dead just to prove my point ...
no sir
i respect the troops and support them 1000000%
i respect the presidency as well 100000%
i dont respect george bush, the man. |
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themy
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 14:23 Post subject:
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so wait a sec, a little over 1000 troops die for a good cause and everyone gets worked up. saddam obviously had banned weapons and obviously has used chemical weapons on tons of people. there was a good reason to take him out of power if solely for this, the fact that he had WMD was proved true by a few shells with some in it. either way we could not have gone to war with france etc because they had secret deals with them using the oil for food program. Kerry's plan to get together with all the world powers and then go to war would not have worked in the U.N. because france would ahve vetoed any resolution to go to war with iraq since they have a large ammount of money invested in iraq. therefore bush's plan was the only good one to use and you guys can kindly shut up about the war and stop trying to put spin on it.
on a side note how about you look up what we did in WW2, how many people died in that war for almost the same causes as Saddam was doing in iraq. if we had all you retarded liberals with the same mass media before you could also create hysteria about that. not to mention interviews with hitler saying "i am not killing jews, this is a lie!" (much like the interview with saddam) so let's just face the facts and not listen to spin from our liberal media who just want kerry to take office so they can report more 9/11 happenings while kerry tries to get a coalition together to fight terrorism.
another funny thing is how all you liberals complain about our troops blah blah, but when we sent in the afghans to capture osama once he was almost cornered you get all pissy and make up some more spin on that. but if we did go in and the same result was 40 U.S. deaths you would b***h about that aswell. how about you people stop m aking lies and spin up about events and get a REAL plan of action.
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Zonk
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 14:44 Post subject:
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yea who gives a f**k that our troops are fighting to save millions of lives from a dirty nuke attack from terrorists if we werent doing anything now to stop them.
Get a clue how serious the times are and shut the f**k up and try giveing a f**k about you family and country.
Or you can just go the John Kerry way and let other nations decide how we protect ourselves.
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Rennol
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 14:45 Post subject:
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| themy wrote: | so wait a sec, a little over 1000 troops die for a good cause and everyone gets worked up. saddam obviously had banned weapons and obviously has used chemical weapons on tons of people. there was a good reason to take him out of power if solely for this, the fact that he had WMD was proved true by a few shells with some in it. either way we could not have gone to war with france etc because they had secret deals with them using the oil for food program. Kerry's plan to get together with all the world powers and then go to war would not have worked in the U.N. because france would ahve vetoed any resolution to go to war with iraq since they have a large ammount of money invested in iraq. therefore bush's plan was the only good one to use and you guys can kindly shut up about the war and stop trying to put spin on it.
on a side note how about you look up what we did in WW2, how many people died in that war for almost the same causes as Saddam was doing in iraq. if we had all you retarded liberals with the same mass media before you could also create hysteria about that. not to mention interviews with hitler saying "i am not killing jews, this is a lie!" (much like the interview with saddam) so let's just face the facts and not listen to spin from our liberal media who just want kerry to take office so they can report more 9/11 happenings while kerry tries to get a coalition together to fight terrorism.
another funny thing is how all you liberals complain about our troops blah blah, but when we sent in the afghans to capture osama once he was almost cornered you get all pissy and make up some more spin on that. but if we did go in and the same result was 40 U.S. deaths you would b***h about that aswell. how about you people stop m aking lies and spin up about events and get a REAL plan of action. |
Flip flopper.
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Brael
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 14:49 Post subject:
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Megalo, aren't you the idiot that said (a long time ago) that white people should be penalised more because of slavery? That you're racist against white people? Non whites (black espically) should get better treatment than everyone else? Etc... If I remember right from that thread you're a middle class age 30ish white guy? So my question is, how can you have those opinions?
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Obmar
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 15:36 Post subject:
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| themy wrote: | so wait a sec, a little over 1000 troops die for a good cause and everyone gets worked up. saddam obviously had banned weapons and obviously has used chemical weapons on tons of people. there was a good reason to take him out of power if solely for this, the fact that he had WMD was proved true by a few shells with some in it. either way we could not have gone to war with france etc because they had secret deals with them using the oil for food program. Kerry's plan to get together with all the world powers and then go to war would not have worked in the U.N. because france would ahve vetoed any resolution to go to war with iraq since they have a large ammount of money invested in iraq. therefore bush's plan was the only good one to use and you guys can kindly shut up about the war and stop trying to put spin on it.
on a side note how about you look up what we did in WW2, how many people died in that war for almost the same causes as Saddam was doing in iraq. if we had all you retarded liberals with the same mass media before you could also create hysteria about that. not to mention interviews with hitler saying "i am not killing jews, this is a lie!" (much like the interview with saddam) so let's just face the facts and not listen to spin from our liberal media who just want kerry to take office so they can report more 9/11 happenings while kerry tries to get a coalition together to fight terrorism.
another funny thing is how all you liberals complain about our troops blah blah, but when we sent in the afghans to capture osama once he was almost cornered you get all pissy and make up some more spin on that. but if we did go in and the same result was 40 U.S. deaths you would b***h about that aswell. how about you people stop m aking lies and spin up about events and get a REAL plan of action. |
Again sir - your writing skills are some of the worst I've seen on these boards. You should really concentrate hard on what you are trying to say, and then - just say that. You meander all over the place, and you end up coming across with no point.
Practice being concise. And support your arguments. Give examples. Here is one sentence that could really use some help:
"there was a good reason to take him out of power if solely for this, the fact that he had WMD was proved true by a few shells with some in it. "
I find myself always having to guess at what exactly you are trying to say.
Keep practicing though, you'll improve.
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themy
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 16:34 Post subject:
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| Rennol wrote: | | themy wrote: | so wait a sec, a little over 1000 troops die for a good cause and everyone gets worked up. saddam obviously had banned weapons and obviously has used chemical weapons on tons of people. there was a good reason to take him out of power if solely for this, the fact that he had WMD was proved true by a few shells with some in it. either way we could not have gone to war with france etc because they had secret deals with them using the oil for food program. Kerry's plan to get together with all the world powers and then go to war would not have worked in the U.N. because france would ahve vetoed any resolution to go to war with iraq since they have a large ammount of money invested in iraq. therefore bush's plan was the only good one to use and you guys can kindly shut up about the war and stop trying to put spin on it.
on a side note how about you look up what we did in WW2, how many people died in that war for almost the same causes as Saddam was doing in iraq. if we had all you retarded liberals with the same mass media before you could also create hysteria about that. not to mention interviews with hitler saying "i am not killing jews, this is a lie!" (much like the interview with saddam) so let's just face the facts and not listen to spin from our liberal media who just want kerry to take office so they can report more 9/11 happenings while kerry tries to get a coalition together to fight terrorism.
another funny thing is how all you liberals complain about our troops blah blah, but when we sent in the afghans to capture osama once he was almost cornered you get all pissy and make up some more spin on that. but if we did go in and the same result was 40 U.S. deaths you would b***h about that aswell. how about you people stop m aking lies and spin up about events and get a REAL plan of action. |
Flip flopper. |
Retard.
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themy
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 16:37 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | | themy wrote: | so wait a sec, a little over 1000 troops die for a good cause and everyone gets worked up. saddam obviously had banned weapons and obviously has used chemical weapons on tons of people. there was a good reason to take him out of power if solely for this, the fact that he had WMD was proved true by a few shells with some in it. either way we could not have gone to war with france etc because they had secret deals with them using the oil for food program. Kerry's plan to get together with all the world powers and then go to war would not have worked in the U.N. because france would ahve vetoed any resolution to go to war with iraq since they have a large ammount of money invested in iraq. therefore bush's plan was the only good one to use and you guys can kindly shut up about the war and stop trying to put spin on it.
on a side note how about you look up what we did in WW2, how many people died in that war for almost the same causes as Saddam was doing in iraq. if we had all you retarded liberals with the same mass media before you could also create hysteria about that. not to mention interviews with hitler saying "i am not killing jews, this is a lie!" (much like the interview with saddam) so let's just face the facts and not listen to spin from our liberal media who just want kerry to take office so they can report more 9/11 happenings while kerry tries to get a coalition together to fight terrorism.
another funny thing is how all you liberals complain about our troops blah blah, but when we sent in the afghans to capture osama once he was almost cornered you get all pissy and make up some more spin on that. but if we did go in and the same result was 40 U.S. deaths you would b***h about that aswell. how about you people stop m aking lies and spin up about events and get a REAL plan of action. |
Again sir - your writing skills are some of the worst I've seen on these boards. You should really concentrate hard on what you are trying to say, and then - just say that. You meander all over the place, and you end up coming across with no point.
Practice being concise. And support your arguments. Give examples. Here is one sentence that could really use some help:
"there was a good reason to take him out of power if solely for this, the fact that he had WMD was proved true by a few shells with some in it. "
I find myself always having to guess at what exactly you are trying to say.
Keep practicing though, you'll improve. |
RETARD
learn how to read big words, you can do it. just add which to WMD and don't be a douche. i'm not going to proof read my posts here so a moron like you could read it and still have nothing to respond to since you actually have no support for anything you say.
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Rennol
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 18:16 Post subject:
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Nice, Themy. I guess "retard" is your best retort to any criticism.
Don't worry, I've "been there, done that", hehe.
But still, man. Come on!!
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Obmar
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 19:20 Post subject:
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| themy wrote: | | Rennol wrote: | | themy wrote: | so wait a sec, a little over 1000 troops die for a good cause and everyone gets worked up. saddam obviously had banned weapons and obviously has used chemical weapons on tons of people. there was a good reason to take him out of power if solely for this, the fact that he had WMD was proved true by a few shells with some in it. either way we could not have gone to war with france etc because they had secret deals with them using the oil for food program. Kerry's plan to get together with all the world powers and then go to war would not have worked in the U.N. because france would ahve vetoed any resolution to go to war with iraq since they have a large ammount of money invested in iraq. therefore bush's plan was the only good one to use and you guys can kindly shut up about the war and stop trying to put spin on it.
on a side note how about you look up what we did in WW2, how many people died in that war for almost the same causes as Saddam was doing in iraq. if we had all you retarded liberals with the same mass media before you could also create hysteria about that. not to mention interviews with hitler saying "i am not killing jews, this is a lie!" (much like the interview with saddam) so let's just face the facts and not listen to spin from our liberal media who just want kerry to take office so they can report more 9/11 happenings while kerry tries to get a coalition together to fight terrorism.
another funny thing is how all you liberals complain about our troops blah blah, but when we sent in the afghans to capture osama once he was almost cornered you get all pissy and make up some more spin on that. but if we did go in and the same result was 40 U.S. deaths you would b***h about that aswell. how about you people stop m aking lies and spin up about events and get a REAL plan of action. |
Flip flopper. |
Retard. |
Seriously man, go back and read your own post. You honestly think adding one word all of a sudden changes things?
P.S. - Your puncuation usage stinks to high heaven as well.
I am totally serious here, you need to go to writing lab, or at least take some pride in your own shit.
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Qaldyin
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 20:45 Post subject:
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Themy, how the hell can you compare WW2 with Iraq? Iraq was a voluntary war that was brought up by the Bush administration.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 06:21 Post subject:
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| Qaldyin wrote: | | Themy, how the hell can you compare WW2 with Iraq? Iraq was a voluntary war that was brought up by the Bush administration. |
No one forced us into WWI.
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Kurel
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 06:25 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Qaldyin wrote: | | Themy, how the hell can you compare WW2 with Iraq? Iraq was a voluntary war that was brought up by the Bush administration. |
No one forced us into WWI. |
Pearl Harbor ring a bell?
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Obmar
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 07:22 Post subject:
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| Kurel wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Qaldyin wrote: | | Themy, how the hell can you compare WW2 with Iraq? Iraq was a voluntary war that was brought up by the Bush administration. |
No one forced us into WWI. |
Pearl Harbor ring a bell? |
uhh
that was WWII smart guy
try this...
| Quote: | After the sinking of the Lusitania, Wilson announced an increase in the size of the US armed forces. However, in the 1916 Presidential election campaign, Woodrow Wilson stressed his policy of neutrality and his team used the slogan: "He kept us out of the war".
On 31st January, 1917, Germany announced a new submarine offensive. Wilson responded by breaking off diplomatic relations with Germany. The publication of the Zimmerman Telegram, that suggested that Germany was willing to help Mexico regain territory in Texas and Arizona, intensified popular opinion against the Central Powers.
On 2nd April, Woodrow Wilson asked for permission to go to war. This was approved in the Senate on 4th April by 82 votes to 6, and two days later, in the House of Representatives, by 373 to 50. Still avoiding alliances, war was declared against the German government (rather than its subjects). War against Austria-Hungary was not declared until 7th December, 1917. |
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Scrabler
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 07:35 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | | Kurel wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Qaldyin wrote: | | Themy, how the hell can you compare WW2 with Iraq? Iraq was a voluntary war that was brought up by the Bush administration. |
No one forced us into WWI. |
Pearl Harbor ring a bell? |
uhh
that was WWII smart guy
try this...
| Quote: | After the sinking of the Lusitania, Wilson announced an increase in the size of the US armed forces. However, in the 1916 Presidential election campaign, Woodrow Wilson stressed his policy of neutrality and his team used the slogan: "He kept us out of the war".
On 31st January, 1917, Germany announced a new submarine offensive. Wilson responded by breaking off diplomatic relations with Germany. The publication of the Zimmerman Telegram, that suggested that Germany was willing to help Mexico regain territory in Texas and Arizona, intensified popular opinion against the Central Powers.
On 2nd April, Woodrow Wilson asked for permission to go to war. This was approved in the Senate on 4th April by 82 votes to 6, and two days later, in the House of Representatives, by 373 to 50. Still avoiding alliances, war was declared against the German government (rather than its subjects). War against Austria-Hungary was not declared until 7th December, 1917. |
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WWI was a typo; it should be WWII. Anyway, themy was talking about the German part of WWII not the Japs. I agree war with Japan couldn't be avoided but we could have stayed out of the German conflict if we wanted, maybe.
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Kurel
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 08:25 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | | Kurel wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Qaldyin wrote: | | Themy, how the hell can you compare WW2 with Iraq? Iraq was a voluntary war that was brought up by the Bush administration. |
No one forced us into WWI. |
Pearl Harbor ring a bell? |
uhh
that was WWII smart guy
try this...
| Quote: | After the sinking of the Lusitania, Wilson announced an increase in the size of the US armed forces. However, in the 1916 Presidential election campaign, Woodrow Wilson stressed his policy of neutrality and his team used the slogan: "He kept us out of the war".
On 31st January, 1917, Germany announced a new submarine offensive. Wilson responded by breaking off diplomatic relations with Germany. The publication of the Zimmerman Telegram, that suggested that Germany was willing to help Mexico regain territory in Texas and Arizona, intensified popular opinion against the Central Powers.
On 2nd April, Woodrow Wilson asked for permission to go to war. This was approved in the Senate on 4th April by 82 votes to 6, and two days later, in the House of Representatives, by 373 to 50. Still avoiding alliances, war was declared against the German government (rather than its subjects). War against Austria-Hungary was not declared until 7th December, 1917. |
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You really need to stop putting your foot in your mouth. :/
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Obmar
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 08:29 Post subject:
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yeah ok typo
but you should still take up the battle cry, "Remeber the Lusitania"! 
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Kurel
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 08:32 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | yeah ok typo
but you should still take up the battle cry, "Remeber the Lusitania"! |
Whatever you say Sparky!
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Scrabler
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 08:35 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | yeah ok typo
but you should still take up the battle cry, "Remeber the Lusitania"! |
I'd rather have "Remember the USS Cole!" as my battle cry..
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Majy
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 11:42 Post subject:
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My only concern with the war is Bush saying such things as how we're on a "crusade" and how "God told [him]" that we need to destroy their people. Seems as if him, Saddam, and Bin Laden should just all have a f*****g tea party and talk about how they're all whackjobs, then dance around like turkeys firing nukes in the air.
How the hell does he think he's any better with the same freakin reasoning?
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Scrabler
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 11:45 Post subject:
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| Majy wrote: | My only concern with the war is Bush saying such things as how we're on a "crusade" and how "God told [him]" that we need to destroy their people. Seems as if him, Saddam, and Bin Laden should just all have a f*****g tea party and talk about how they're all whackjobs, then dance around like turkeys firing nukes in the air.
How the hell does he think he's any better with the same freakin reasoning? |
They kill innocent people.
We kill the killers of the innocent.
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Majy
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 11:50 Post subject:
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Not that I want to protect them or anything, and I'm not a hippie liberal wanting peace and love and shit... but a couple of things, just to play devils advocate:
1) In their eyes, we are not innocent. Their culture would accuse us of many fallacies and religious wrongs. Who is the U.S. to tell others how to live their lives and run their countries? (the age-old question)
2) Do you HONESTLY think we're not killing innocents over there? We've killed thousands. If you think Osama is in a house, you bomb the house... turns out it was just 20 women and children? Whoops!
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Scrabler
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 12:00 Post subject:
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| Majy wrote: | Not that I want to protect them or anything, and I'm not a hippie liberal wanting peace and love and shit... but a couple of things, just to play devils advocate:
1) In their eyes, we are not innocent. Their culture would accuse us of many fallacies and religious wrongs. Who is the U.S. to tell others how to live their lives and run their countries? (the age-old question)
2) Do you HONESTLY think we're not killing innocents over there? We've killed thousands. If you think Osama is in a house, you bomb the house... turns out it was just 20 women and children? Whoops! |
1. Who gives a f**k what they think..the majority of the world knows it's wrong to target an innocent person because they don't follow your beliefs/religion.
2. Of course we kill innocent civis it happens in a war. The difference is we kill a few by accident and if we could change the fact we would. The terrorists turn themselves into bombs and run into a crowd of children.
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Majy
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 12:15 Post subject:
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To that they'd say:
1. Who gives a f**k what THEY think, WE'RE right
2. Who gives a f**k what THEY think, I'm doing this for my god.
These guys aren't running around saying "haha, we're crazy, lets go kill some innocents!" They're saying "this is what needs to be done for my people and my religion."
Of course, everyone's got questionable practices. Do I love America? f**k yea, but if you travel anywhere outside of America and ask people the same question, they'll laugh in your face.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 12:18 Post subject:
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| Majy wrote: | To that they'd say:
1. Who gives a f**k what THEY think, WE'RE right
2. Who gives a f**k what THEY think, I'm doing this for my god.
These guys aren't running around saying "haha, we're crazy, lets go kill some innocents!" They're saying "this is what needs to be done for my people and my religion."
Of course, everyone's got questionable practices. Do I love America? f**k yea, but if you travel anywhere outside of America and ask people the same question, they'll laugh in your face. |
Yeah, it must suck not being the best country.
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Majy
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Posted: 10/17/04 - 12:21 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: |
Yeah, it must suck not being the best country. |
haha, but then you have to define what makes a country "the best," and everyone would define it differently... but then again, that's politics =P
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