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the flower princess
Toomuchtimeonhands

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 986
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Posted: 07/25/05 - 16:05 Post subject: 60 Dwarf paladin-4 purple items-2 epic mounts-LOOK
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In need of money and selling my 60 paladin on the bleeding hollow server. He has a flawless reputation and has been playing since release. He has 4 epic items-Lionheart helm-great crit helm, Hide of the wild-awesome healing cloak, Lawbringers gauntlets and shoulders (tier 1 molten core armor) which look amazing. He uses an arcanite reaper and also has an orb of deception. He has his epic ram and also has a gnome gold epic mount which cost around 1500-1800 gold alone. He is keyed for molten core, onyxia, and the newly released blackwing lair. He is in one of the top 2 guilds on the server. His gear is overall great and has tons of crit items including 2 rings, helm, legs, gaunts, and breastplate. This paladin is an awesome geared character with a great rep. I have only been in 2 guilds since level 1. He was the first dwarf and paladin on the server with the cross race mount also. If you would like to contact me with offers i have aol instant messenger and my name is madrounds or just PM me here. Thanks
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Xismakin
Toomuchtimeonhands

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 930
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Posted: 07/25/05 - 16:08 Post subject:
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WRONG FORUM c********r
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Haphasto
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Joined: 10 Nov 2002 Posts: 1800
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Posted: 07/25/05 - 16:35 Post subject:
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beat me to it ><
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motherface
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Posts: 3407
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Posted: 07/25/05 - 16:57 Post subject: Re: 60 Dwarf paladin-4 purple items-2 epic mounts-LOOK
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| the flower princess wrote: | | In need of money and selling my 60 paladin on the bleeding hollow server. He has a flawless reputation and has been playing since release. He has 4 epic items-Lionheart helm-great crit helm, Hide of the wild-awesome healing cloak, Lawbringers gauntlets and shoulders (tier 1 molten core armor) which look amazing. He uses an arcanite reaper and also has an orb of deception. He has his epic ram and also has a gnome gold epic mount which cost around 1500-1800 gold alone. He is keyed for molten core, onyxia, and the newly released blackwing lair. He is in one of the top 2 guilds on the server. His gear is overall great and has tons of crit items including 2 rings, helm, legs, gaunts, and breastplate. This paladin is an awesome geared character with a great rep. I have only been in 2 guilds since level 1. He was the first dwarf and paladin on the server with the cross race mount also. If you would like to contact me with offers i have aol instant messenger and my name is madrounds or just PM me here. Thanks |
Too bad it's a paladin and therefore worthless.
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Goraz
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 3736
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Posted: 07/25/05 - 17:03 Post subject:
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If you wear braces, you will make more money going around offering blow jobs than you will selling your WoW account.
no one in their right mind pays for a WoW Char because its so f*****g easy to get him 60 and get uber gear. EVEN if you're casual gamer.
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Kurel
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 1877
Location: Cali
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Posted: 07/25/05 - 17:05 Post subject: Re: 60 Dwarf paladin-4 purple items-2 epic mounts-LOOK
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| motherface wrote: | | the flower princess wrote: | | In need of money and selling my 60 paladin on the bleeding hollow server. He has a flawless reputation and has been playing since release. He has 4 epic items-Lionheart helm-great crit helm, Hide of the wild-awesome healing cloak, Lawbringers gauntlets and shoulders (tier 1 molten core armor) which look amazing. He uses an arcanite reaper and also has an orb of deception. He has his epic ram and also has a gnome gold epic mount which cost around 1500-1800 gold alone. He is keyed for molten core, onyxia, and the newly released blackwing lair. He is in one of the top 2 guilds on the server. His gear is overall great and has tons of crit items including 2 rings, helm, legs, gaunts, and breastplate. This paladin is an awesome geared character with a great rep. I have only been in 2 guilds since level 1. He was the first dwarf and paladin on the server with the cross race mount also. If you would like to contact me with offers i have aol instant messenger and my name is madrounds or just PM me here. Thanks |
Too bad it's a paladin and therefore worthless. |
You're f*****g retarded if you think Paladins are worthless.
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atarom
Dalai Lama of RealPoor

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 16398
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Posted: 07/25/05 - 17:13 Post subject:
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he's still retarded if he thinks anywone here is going to give him more than a nickel for it.
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motherface
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Posts: 3407
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Posted: 07/26/05 - 17:47 Post subject: Re: 60 Dwarf paladin-4 purple items-2 epic mounts-LOOK
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| Kurel wrote: | | You're f*****g retarded if you think Paladins are worthless. |
Paladins are worthless pieces of shit unless you need a healerbot.
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Kurel
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 1877
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Posted: 07/26/05 - 19:33 Post subject: Re: 60 Dwarf paladin-4 purple items-2 epic mounts-LOOK
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| motherface wrote: | | Kurel wrote: | | You're f*****g retarded if you think Paladins are worthless. |
Paladins are worthless pieces of shit unless you need a healerbot. |
Or someone to shield pull raid mobs, or someone to effectivly increase the DPS of every Melee in the raid by 10%. Or someone to increase the tanks HP by 10% (roughly 800-1k hp depending).
Need to battle res some dead folk? Paladins can DI themselves and start resing instantly. Hardly worthless you f*****g retard.
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motherface
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Posts: 3407
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Posted: 07/26/05 - 20:22 Post subject: Re: 60 Dwarf paladin-4 purple items-2 epic mounts-LOOK
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| Kurel wrote: | | motherface wrote: | | Kurel wrote: | | You're f*****g retarded if you think Paladins are worthless. |
Paladins are worthless pieces of shit unless you need a healerbot. |
Or someone to shield pull raid mobs, or someone to effectivly increase the DPS of every Melee in the raid by 10%. Or someone to increase the tanks HP by 10% (roughly 800-1k hp depending).
Need to battle res some dead folk? Paladins can DI themselves and start resing instantly. Hardly worthless you f*****g retard. |
The Paladin class is worthless. Buffing 10-15 people every 5 minutes gets old. Divine Intervention kills the Paladin and keeps the person he's DI'd immobile for the duration of the effect, so how does that let the Paladin "instantly res"?
Even if the things you listed were worth a damn, they still don't add up to the utility of any single Rogue or Shaman ability. The Paladin class is a piece of shit even without comparison to other classes; when compared with a Shaman it's nearly comical how pathetic the class is.
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Kurel
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 1877
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Posted: 07/26/05 - 20:27 Post subject: Re: 60 Dwarf paladin-4 purple items-2 epic mounts-LOOK
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| motherface wrote: | | Kurel wrote: | | motherface wrote: | | Kurel wrote: | | You're f*****g retarded if you think Paladins are worthless. |
Paladins are worthless pieces of shit unless you need a healerbot. |
Or someone to shield pull raid mobs, or someone to effectivly increase the DPS of every Melee in the raid by 10%. Or someone to increase the tanks HP by 10% (roughly 800-1k hp depending).
Need to battle res some dead folk? Paladins can DI themselves and start resing instantly. Hardly worthless you f*****g retard. |
The Paladin class is worthless. Buffing 10-15 people every 5 minutes gets old. Divine Intervention kills the Paladin and keeps the person he's DI'd immobile for the duration of the effect, so how does that let the Paladin "instantly res"?
Even if the things you listed were worth a damn, they still don't add up to the utility of any single Rogue or Shaman ability. The Paladin class is a piece of shit even without comparison to other classes; when compared with a Shaman it's nearly comical how pathetic the class is. |
Buffing is solved by Whisper Cast. Simply whispering the Paladin causes him to auto-cast the buff you want on keyword. When we raid, we simply picked our favorite Paladin, set a Macro like "/tell Paladin01 Kings" and mashed it anytime kings went down.
You just proved how big of a f*****g newb you are. Divine Shield + Divine Intervention + Right Click DI off = insta-reses, Paladin stays alive.
A Rogue doesn't have any utility in a raid. Rogues mash backstab and feint repeatidly, and suck up healers mana because they get AOE'ed.
Shaman's are great, but I'll take a Paladin in a raid situation over them any day of the weak. Cleanses + their buffs = pwnage. You're truely f*****g stupid if you think *any* class in WoW is worthless.
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motherface
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Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Posts: 3407
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Posted: 07/26/05 - 20:33 Post subject:
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The Paladin class is useless. No matter how much you type, it won't change that fact.
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Kurel
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Posted: 07/26/05 - 20:36 Post subject:
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Another neat trick to do with a Paladin is to Judge Seal of Wisdom on a mob, and have the casters in your raid wand him for faster mana regen.
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Kurel
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Posted: 07/26/05 - 20:38 Post subject:
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| motherface wrote: | | The Paladin class is useless. No matter how much you type, it won't change that fact. |
That's okay, you'll still be retarded no matter how much you try and deny it.
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Finigan
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 3817
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Posted: 07/26/05 - 21:04 Post subject:
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The Paladin class is DEFINETLY not useless. Especially in raid situations. But it is a support class. And therefore, boring as all f**k.
Warriors 4tw
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Omol
Luke Warm

Joined: 15 Oct 2002 Posts: 304
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Posted: 07/26/05 - 21:19 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Shaman's are great, but I'll take a Paladin in a raid situation over them any day of the weak. Cleanses + their buffs = pwnage. |
As a Shaman, I would take cleanse any day over purge. Purge sucks ass in a raid situation. Alot of paladins dont realize how good they have it when it comes to this stuff since they all want to try and be DPS mechines.
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NinjaBurger
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Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 2800
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Posted: 07/26/05 - 21:19 Post subject:
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| Kurel wrote: | | Another neat trick to do with a Paladin is to Judge Seal of Wisdom on a mob, and have the casters in your raid wand him for faster mana regen. |
You can judge all ranks for mass mana regen!
I think our priests were getting about 200 mana a tic wanding and with +mana regen =p
But paladins need help, but they sure as hell aren't the pitiful class people are making them out to be. Most of the retards playing them really think they're intended to do DPS, and it's sad.
SUPPORT is more important than DPS in the long run.
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Gethy
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Posted: 07/26/05 - 21:28 Post subject:
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They're in no way gimped, but they're absolutely not the class some people b***h about--day in and out.
I'll be happy the day I'm not cleansing 5 people in WSG as they all wade through totems instead of popping them.
DPS is the last thing I think of, but it'd be nice to see a couple of bones thown in any department, even support.
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motherface
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Posted: 07/26/05 - 21:45 Post subject:
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| NinjaBurger wrote: | | SUPPORT is more important than DPS in the long run. |
It's f*****g boring, it's not how Paladins were designed or played in any other game, and they are completely useless in PvP. Judging with Wisdom for casters' mana is nice and all, but when the trash mobs die in < 10 seconds, no Judgment is useful. And when there's more than one Paladin present? Judgment of Light and its shit-tastic 35 hp heals, melee-only?
Shaman: can both single target and AE with totem, can do ranged damage both single target and AE with totem, can snare both single target and AE with totem, has good DPS both in ranged and melee combat and is able to wield the most powerful weapons (Arcanite reaper) with talents. Wear mail armor so they can take hits fairly well. Can also remove buffs from opponents and change into spirit wolf form, and has a self-rez.
By contrast, Paladins have no ranged damage, no way of slowing or stopping other players except for stun, which has a 60 second timer and very short range (the proc isn't useful in pvp when chasing someone), can wear plate armor, can heal, cure, and rez, and can buff the entire group with one of 5-6 auras, which can either improve a resistance, buff AC, or reduce chance of spell interruption.
I'm not one of the ones who thought Paladins should be "DPS machines," but when it takes you 3-5x longer to kill a mob than any other class, something is wrong. I had a rogue and in his 40s the rogue killed mobs faster, took less damage, had way less downtime, and had a far more interactive ability set than my Paladin.
Being a support class may be "important" but that doesn't mean it's good. The guy who empties porta-potties has an "important" job, but it's still s****y. In EQ, Shamans whined for a long time that their only roles were buffing and then slowing, and then they basically layered dots. It's a similar situation, but Paladins don't get anything remotely as useful as the EQ Shaman's slow.
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Kurel
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Posted: 07/27/05 - 00:13 Post subject:
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| motherface wrote: | | NinjaBurger wrote: | | SUPPORT is more important than DPS in the long run. |
It's f*****g boring, it's not how Paladins were designed or played in any other game, and they are completely useless in PvP. Judging with Wisdom for casters' mana is nice and all, but when the trash mobs die in < 10 seconds, no Judgment is useful. And when there's more than one Paladin present? Judgment of Light and its shit-tastic 35 hp heals, melee-only?
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In raid situations fucktard, not Stratholme / BRS / Scholo. MC / BWL and up Paladins > Shamans. Trash mobs in the above listed zones last a lot longer then 10 seconds.
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motherface
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Posted: 07/27/05 - 08:22 Post subject:
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So what you're saying is that Paladins are useless for levels 1-59, and for the weeks or months of Strath and BRS you need to do to gear up for the high end raids. In other words, for most of the game, including the significant PVP aspect, you agree that Paladins are useless.
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Occulis
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Posted: 07/27/05 - 11:04 Post subject:
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| motherface wrote: | | So what you're saying is that Paladins are useless for levels 1-59, and for the weeks or months of Strath and BRS you need to do to gear up for the high end raids. In other words, for most of the game, including the significant PVP aspect, you agree that Paladins are useless. |
ZING / PWN!11
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NinjaBurger
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Posted: 07/27/05 - 11:04 Post subject:
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Um...
What was the last game you played where a paladin wasn't a tank/healing-curing-buffbot?
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Janoth
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Posted: 07/27/05 - 23:37 Post subject:
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Paladins = best support pvp class in game. Well played paladins can make your WSG group near unbeatable.
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Psink
Toomuchtimeonhands

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Posted: 07/28/05 - 02:00 Post subject:
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lol
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Gethy
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Posted: 07/28/05 - 05:23 Post subject:
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Too bad I'm the only good Paladin, ever.
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Frax
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Posted: 07/28/05 - 08:41 Post subject:
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sounds like someone is butthurt over paladins not being the uber god tank again!
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Gethy
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Posted: 07/28/05 - 14:21 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | sounds like someone is butthurt over paladins not being the uber god tank again! |
Only really upset over mana:hp on heals and the worthlessness of a few trees, lots of talents.
Slightly controllable DPS would be nice as well.
But I don't recall a time the Paladin was ever an "uber god tank".
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