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Confused
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 Posted: 08/24/04 - 13:46 Post subject: 12/2/1968: Kerry received purple heart
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12/11/1968: Kerry writes in journal that he and his crew "'hadn't been shot at yet".
8/24/2004: Kerry campaign conceads that injury may have been an "unintentional self-inflicted wound".
11/4/2004: Bush wins reelection.
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 13:58 Post subject: Re: 12/2/1968: Kerry received purple heart
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| Confused wrote: | 12/11/1968: Kerry writes in journal that he and his crew "'hadn't been shot at yet".
8/24/2004: Kerry campaign conceads that injury may have been an "unintentional self-inflicted wound".
11/4/2004: Bush wins reelection. |
12/24/2014 Confused dies cold and alone of apparant suicide.
His last thoughts are "my God Ive wasted it"
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Wily
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 14:13 Post subject: Re: 12/2/1968: Kerry received purple heart
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what does that word mean?
what language is it?
...at least Kerry Showed up.
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 14:24 Post subject: Re: 12/2/1968: Kerry received purple heart
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| Wily wrote: |
what does that word mean?
what language is it?
...at least Kerry Showed up.
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Bush was scared to fight for his country.
Had he been a man he would have fought side by side with his peers instead of pussing out like a little girl.
He talks big in the safety of the whitehouse and while "choppin the firewood" but when its time to step up Bush doesnt have the courage to be deployed personally.
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Confused
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 14:48 Post subject: Re: 12/2/1968: Kerry received purple heart
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| Jack Crow wrote: | | Wily wrote: |
what does that word mean?
what language is it?
...at least Kerry Showed up.
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Bush was scared to fight for his country.
Had he been a man he would have fought side by side with his peers instead of pussing out like a little girl.
He talks big in the safety of the whitehouse and while "choppin the firewood" but when its time to step up Bush doesnt have the courage to be deployed personally. |
So the national guard is composed of p*****s? Tell that to the tens of thousands in Iraq. Kerry was apparently the one scared of fighting for America. He cut himself to buy his way home after just four months so that he could exploit soldiers for his congressional election bid. Then he claimed, in front of congress, that it was US policy to commit war crimes. That prompted the vietcong to force soldiers to sign affidavits stating that they committed war crimes as a means of torture. Nice...real nice.
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 15:04 Post subject: Re: 12/2/1968: Kerry received purple heart
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| Confused wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | Wily wrote: |
what does that word mean?
what language is it?
...at least Kerry Showed up.
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Bush was scared to fight for his country.
Had he been a man he would have fought side by side with his peers instead of pussing out like a little girl.
He talks big in the safety of the whitehouse and while "choppin the firewood" but when its time to step up Bush doesnt have the courage to be deployed personally. |
So the national guard is composed of p*****s? Tell that to the tens of thousands in Iraq. Kerry was apparently the one scared of fighting for America. He cut himself to buy his way home after just four months so that he could exploit soldiers for his congressional election bid. Then he claimed, in front of congress, that it was US policy to commit war crimes. That prompted the vietcong to force soldiers to sign affidavits stating that they committed war crimes as a means of torture. Nice...real nice. |
In the Vietnam era the guard only had small mobilizations to Vietnam, very small in comparsion to the huge mobilization we have to Iraq.
In Vietnam, if you wanted to avoid deployment, the place to go was the national Guard.
And as far as your accusations towards Kerry, thats only right winged biased spin that you wish were true.
The military isnt in the habit of handing out medals like candy, he earned his decorations.
You are grasping at straws and making shit up, because mainly, you are a single minded sucker who believes in every single conspiracy theory you ever hear about as long as it serves your cause.
And that, confused, makes you a f*****g MORON.
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xeqer
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 15:30 Post subject:
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Not according the medical officer who treated his wounds...
Nor his shipmates...
and the latest, from Kerry's own journal itself..
In short ...John Kerry is a f*****g coward that lied about his wounds....again... and again... and then again to get out of Vietnam.
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Confused
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 15:36 Post subject: Re: 12/2/1968: Kerry received purple heart
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| Jack Crow wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | Wily wrote: |
what does that word mean?
what language is it?
...at least Kerry Showed up.
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Bush was scared to fight for his country.
Had he been a man he would have fought side by side with his peers instead of pussing out like a little girl.
He talks big in the safety of the whitehouse and while "choppin the firewood" but when its time to step up Bush doesnt have the courage to be deployed personally. |
So the national guard is composed of p*****s? Tell that to the tens of thousands in Iraq. Kerry was apparently the one scared of fighting for America. He cut himself to buy his way home after just four months so that he could exploit soldiers for his congressional election bid. Then he claimed, in front of congress, that it was US policy to commit war crimes. That prompted the vietcong to force soldiers to sign affidavits stating that they committed war crimes as a means of torture. Nice...real nice. |
In the Vietnam era the guard only had small mobilizations to Vietnam, very small in comparsion to the huge mobilization we have to Iraq.
In Vietnam, if you wanted to avoid deployment, the place to go was the national Guard.
And as far as your accusations towards Kerry, thats only right winged biased spin that you wish were true.
The military isnt in the habit of handing out medals like candy, he earned his decorations.
You are grasping at straws and making shit up, because mainly, you are a single minded sucker who believes in every single conspiracy theory you ever hear about as long as it serves your cause.
And that, confused, makes you a f*****g MORON. |
Really? In May of 1968 alone, 12,234 National Guardsmen were called to active duty.
And I'm sorry, but I don't even need to grasp at straws. Kerry's own journal corroborates the Swiftee's claims.
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Obmar
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 15:52 Post subject:
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don't forget he checked the "i don't want to go overseas" box.....
i mean really - it totally sounds like bush is a draft dodger
dont get me wrong - clinton was too - i'd just like the esteemed right on these boards to recognise the reality here and stop trying to act like he served in vietnam by NOT flying planes in Florida while he helped run elections.....
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 15:56 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | don't forget he checked the "i don't want to go overseas" box.....
i mean really - it totally sounds like bush is a draft dodger
dont get me wrong - clinton was too - i'd just like the esteemed right on these boards to recognise the reality here and stop trying to act like he served in vietnam by NOT flying planes in Florida while he helped run elections..... |
Clinton wasn't a draft-dodger. He legally went to school overseas. A draft-dodger is someone who is called to service and doesn't go. Usually they went to Canada or something.
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Obmar
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 16:49 Post subject:
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semantics
and thereby you also don't answer to my point
clever or just Confused?
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 16:51 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | semantics
and thereby you also don't answer to my point
clever or just Confused? |
You didn't have a point and therefore get no answer.
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Obmar
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 16:53 Post subject:
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reread my post then - and don't apply any legality to the term "draft dodger"
cause whether or not it was legal (clinton or bush) they both dodged the draft. Just because they weren't then convicted of it or went to canada doesn't change the fact.
now do you see a point? or i guess maybe you might not - you only seem to want to make every issue a partisan political one
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 16:56 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | reread my post then - and don't apply any legality to the term "draft dodger"
cause whether or not it was legal (clinton or bush) they both dodged the draft. Just because they weren't then convicted of it or went to canada doesn't change the fact.
now do you see a point? or i guess maybe you might not - you only seem to want to make every issue a partisan political one |
How is it partisan when I say Clinton wasn't a draft-dodger? Students were not drafted in the 60's. Does that make everyone who was a college student in the 60's a draft-dodger? Also, you're a d*****s.
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Obmar
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 16:59 Post subject:
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my point - which you missed, even though it was plain:
Bush dodged Vietnam - using perfectly legal channels (albiet maybe taking extra advantage of his socio-political connections) he avoided being sent over there.
now can we get off the semantics argument? The clinton thing was only to try to come together in bi-partisanship on this issue. You are either too blind, too stupid, or too stubborn to admit that though.
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Confused
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 17:01 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | my point - which you missed, even though it was plain:
Bush dodged Vietnam - using perfectly legal channels (albiet maybe taking extra advantage of his socio-political connections) he avoided being sent over there.
now can we get off the semantics argument? The clinton thing was only to try to come together in bi-partisanship on this issue. You are either too blind, too stupid, or too stubborn to admit that though. |
You didn't answer my question. Is every person who went to college in the 60's a draft-dodger?
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 17:06 Post subject:
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bush wasn't in college 
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 17:09 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | | bush wasn't in college |
Once again you refuse to answer. Many things offered people the chance to avoid service, like the peace corps.
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Obmar
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 17:15 Post subject:
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again sir it is YOU who refuse to answer
draft dodging is draft dodging - but i really dont expect you to agree with that statement
p.s. i bet you weren't defending clinton's trip overseas to college when he was running....
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 17:18 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | again sir it is YOU who refuse to answer
draft dodging is draft dodging - but i really dont expect you to agree with that statement
p.s. i bet you weren't defending clinton's trip overseas to college when he was running.... |
Confused went from an IQ of 90 to an IQ of 65 when he fell off one of these
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Confused
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 17:23 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | again sir it is YOU who refuse to answer
draft dodging is draft dodging - but i really dont expect you to agree with that statement
p.s. i bet you weren't defending clinton's trip overseas to college when he was running.... |
Answer what? You haven't asked a question. I was too young to get on the "Clinton is a draft-dodger" bandwagon. I was barely 14 when he was elected. I never really considered him a draft-dodger, since it was a perfectly legitimate thing that he did. Why should every Rhodes Scholar in the 60's be considered a draft dodger, or every college student or every peace corp volunteer, or every national guardsman, etc.. I do have issues with Clinton's foreign protests while he was in Britain, though.
Now you answer the question I DID ask. Do you consider all of these people draft-dodgers?
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 17:24 Post subject:
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| Jack Crow wrote: | | Obmar wrote: | again sir it is YOU who refuse to answer
draft dodging is draft dodging - but i really dont expect you to agree with that statement
p.s. i bet you weren't defending clinton's trip overseas to college when he was running.... |
Confused went from an IQ of 90 to an IQ of 65 when he fell off one of these
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If I fall 2 more times I'll be as smart as you.
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 17:30 Post subject:
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Answer what? You haven't asked a question. I was too young to get on the "Clinton is a draft-dodger" bandwagon. I was barely 14 when he was elected. |
Holy shit!
No wonder your historical perspective is so limited.
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 17:40 Post subject:
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| Fabulez wrote: | | Confused wrote: |
Answer what? You haven't asked a question. I was too young to get on the "Clinton is a draft-dodger" bandwagon. I was barely 14 when he was elected. |
Holy shit!
No wonder your historical perspective is so limited. |
It is vast. There's this thing called "the written word" by which people can transfer knowledge from one generation to the next.
Words mean something.
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 17:48 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Fabulez wrote: | | Confused wrote: |
Answer what? You haven't asked a question. I was too young to get on the "Clinton is a draft-dodger" bandwagon. I was barely 14 when he was elected. |
Holy shit!
No wonder your historical perspective is so limited. |
It is vast. There's this thing called "the written word" by which people can transfer knowledge from one generation to the next.
Words mean something. |
/me points finger at moon
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 17:59 Post subject:
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Its funny how so many people dog out GWB for not serving in vietnam.. yet most of them have been no closer to any danger than their lawnmower or getting in their car.
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 18:06 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | Its funny how so many people dog out GWB for not serving in vietnam.. yet most of them have been no closer to any danger than their lawnmower or getting in their car. |
This comparison would be more meaningful if those people had also ordered hundreds of thousands of their countrymen off to war.
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 18:11 Post subject:
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| Fabulez wrote: | | Frax wrote: | | Its funny how so many people dog out GWB for not serving in vietnam.. yet most of them have been no closer to any danger than their lawnmower or getting in their car. |
This comparison would be more meaningful if those people had also ordered hundreds of thousands of their countrymen off to war. |
FDR never served in the military, whats your point there?
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 18:14 Post subject: Re: 12/2/1968: Kerry received purple heart
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| Confused wrote: | | So the national guard is composed of p*****s? |
no, Bush is not longer an active member.
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Posted: 08/24/04 - 18:16 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | Its funny how so many people dog out GWB for not serving in vietnam.. yet most of them have been no closer to any danger than their lawnmower or getting in their car. |
I think it has to do with the obvious string pulling and backdoor dealing that 'protected' a influentiual man's child from harm. f**k, cant you guys at least be honest about that?
clinton was a p***y draft dodger, well so was bush. Bush just did it better. Same Dodge tho.
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